ANTIFA Clashes With Black Lives Matter in Dallas

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Grambler

The problem is they are to inconsistent. Boston unfortunately demonstrated that because there BLM and Antifa had apparently no problems and even chanted together how much they hate cops.

Of course groups are inconsistent. BLM has a good cause. Good purpose. They wanted to address police brutality. Just like every group, it got hijacked by paid shills and bad elements to make them look bad. Apparently they have succeed wonderfully.

Yes and like all the other groups they need to separate themselves from all of them but in most cases i witnessed they just got along with it. It feels like they don't follow any leadership or organization and people just do what they want. My intention wasn't to bash BLM as a whole but i refuse to cheer on possible gang members just because they went off on some Antifa morons. They are all a blight to society.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler
Antifa on the other hand; remember, the media tells us how heroic they were fighting nazis. Again, they show they are violent scum bags that will pick a fight with anyone.

Ok, now... re-read what you just typed.

Do you think that was because "the left" feels that way or do you think it's because the media (left and right) know it pays more to paint that picture?

The folks "fighting" against the attendees of these Nazi rallies aren't "Antifa". They are regular folk just like you and I. People who live there, left and right, who simply understand the evils of white nationalism.

But that doesn't sell clicks very well, does it?

There is truth to what you are saying.

But the media has been downplaying antifa violence and normalizing them for a while now.

Of course not all of those against the protestors in charlottesville were antifa. And i know you agree not all of the protestors were nazis.

But the fact that antifa were there, and were causing violence, and the media celebrated them is disturbing.

The media has been setting up the "Is it ok to punch a nazi" theme for quite some time, and thats a dangerous mindset that leads right into antifa's violent behavior.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

It's possible that the good guys are afraid of gang members.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Thanks for sharing so many of your opinions with me.

Now, are you going to deny that there is a media narrative on "the right" as surely as "the left"?

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler
Antifa on the other hand; remember, the media tells us how heroic they were fighting nazis. Again, they show they are violent scum bags that will pick a fight with anyone.

Ok, now... re-read what you just typed.

Do you think that was because "the left" feels that way or do you think it's because the media (left and right) know it pays more to paint that picture?

The folks "fighting" against the attendees of these Nazi rallies aren't "Antifa". They are regular folk just like you and I. People who live there, left and right, who simply understand the evils of white nationalism.

But that doesn't sell clicks very well, does it?

There is truth to what you are saying.

But the media has been downplaying antifa violence and normalizing them for a while now.

Of course not all of those against the protestors in charlottesville were antifa. And i know you agree not all of the protestors were nazis.

But the fact that antifa were there, and were causing violence, and the media celebrated them is disturbing.

The media has been setting up the "Is it ok to punch a nazi" theme for quite some time, and thats a dangerous mindset that leads right into antifa's violent behavior.

#... you got me there. That is true.

I'm starting to side with some of these conspiracy folk when it comes to media manipulation.

Still, I wish moments like this (BLM vs Antifa) would happen more with regular 1st amendment protesters (or... what the hell do you call protesters when they are "for" something?) and Nazi betas.

Seriously. I remember when whats-his-nuts held that big neo-Nazi rally here right after that white-supremacist killed people on my train. The anarchists showed up (we don't even give them a title so cool as "antifa" here; they're just known as the anarchists assholes), all the counter protesters were super pissed. We had counter counter protesters, protesting the anarchists who were, in turn, protesting the white-nationalists. As confusing as that sounds, that needs to happen more. I didn't see any right-wing folk show up to counter the white-nationalists that showed up. That needs to happen more.

Anyway... I think if it weren't for the easy and lazy dichotomy that sells clicks, we'd all realize that both right and left are against both Nazis and anarchists.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler
Antifa on the other hand; remember, the media tells us how heroic they were fighting nazis. Again, they show they are violent scum bags that will pick a fight with anyone.

Ok, now... re-read what you just typed.

Do you think that was because "the left" feels that way or do you think it's because the media (left and right) know it pays more to paint that picture?

The folks "fighting" against the attendees of these Nazi rallies aren't "Antifa". They are regular folk just like you and I. People who live there, left and right, who simply understand the evils of white nationalism.

But that doesn't sell clicks very well, does it?

There is truth to what you are saying.

But the media has been downplaying antifa violence and normalizing them for a while now.

Of course not all of those against the protestors in charlottesville were antifa. And i know you agree not all of the protestors were nazis.

But the fact that antifa were there, and were causing violence, and the media celebrated them is disturbing.

The media has been setting up the "Is it ok to punch a nazi" theme for quite some time, and thats a dangerous mindset that leads right into antifa's violent behavior.

#... you got me there. That is true.

I'm starting to side with some of these conspiracy folk when it comes to media manipulation.

Still, I wish moments like this (BLM vs Antifa) would happen more with regular 1st amendment protesters (or... what the hell do you call protesters when they are "for" something?) and Nazi betas.

Seriously. I remember when whats-his-nuts held that big neo-Nazi rally here right after that white-supremacist killed people on my train. The anarchists showed up (we don't even give them a title so cool as "antifa" here; they're just known as the anarchists assholes), all the counter protesters were super pissed. We had counter counter protesters, protesting the anarchists who were, in turn, protesting the white-nationalists. As confusing as that sounds, that needs to happen more. I didn't see any right-wing folk show up to counter the white-nationalists that showed up. That needs to happen more.

Anyway... I think if it weren't for the easy and lazy dichotomy that sells clicks, we'd all realize that both right and left are against both Nazis and anarchists.

Yes most people are against both.

The key is reminding ourselves and each other that most people that disagree with us are not nazis or anarchists (or other terrible groups).

Its difficult, but we need to balance rejecting these extremists without labeling non extremists people extremists.

I don't know I am tired, hope that makes sense.

originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
So now BLM is the good guys?

Try to keep up. It's "globalists" vs "globalists" or something. Maybe "Soros is paying shills to fight one another." It's the media. The media is turning BLM against Antifa or the other way around. This is all Clinton's email's fault! I blame Obama.

In other news, here's some Oathkeepers kicking a bigot of some variety out of their rally in Houston:

Maybe it's just Texas?

Good for them keep out the Hail Victory trash.
Also, thanks for sharing, good to see either side is trying here despite the media, etc., hype.

originally posted by: Grambler
Its difficult, but we need to balance rejecting these extremists without labeling non extremists people extremists.

I don't know I am tired, hope that makes sense.

It does. Thank you.

Suddenly the right now like BLM... you couldn't make it up.

Just because Insurgents or groups like BLM can synthesise on certain actions doesn't mean any particular groups have authority over another, just like anarchists fight with socialist and communist.

everyone is so brainwashed by politics and political parties that you "pledge allegiance" to that you can't see individuals for who they are, you act like we are all some mass organisation, we can disagree on tactics and actions and still be fighting for liberation

Could of made a remake of old movie"Dumb and Dumber,the virtual reality edition

Cancer Vs. AIDS

originally posted by: Kromlech
Cancer Vs. AIDS

My money is on cancer 😄

originally posted by: neo96
ANTIFA Clashes With Black Lives Matter in Dallas

Go figure.

Two lefts do make a RIGHT.

alt-right doesn't even need to troll them

they're trolling themselves

in laughing

The ouroboros has begun to eat itself. Fabulous, give me more and I'll make popcorn.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Thanks for sharing so many of your opinions with me.

Now, are you going to deny that there is a media narrative on "the right" as surely as "the left"?

Short answer is no and why should i. I don't like how the media is portraying the Alt-Right as the new upcoming movement and lumping them altogether with Trump supporters. The media is giving the Alt-Right way too much credit for my taste but that is what they are good at. Meanwhile the Left is cannibalizing itself on all fronts. It's only a matter of time until it all implodes. I blame the media for creating this mess in the first place.

a reply to: infolurker

This sounds like some of my own relatives.

If they can't find someone else to fight; they just start to fight each other.

originally posted by: neo96

Two lefts do make a RIGHT.

I would think it makes you go backwards (witch seems to be the case).

Regards,

a reply to: SudoNim

Not even close. This is like watching AB fight the KKK or White Supremacy because they all think they have the biggest balls. Let them all eat and fight amongst themselves and maybe a few will realize how dumb it all is and have an epiphany that hate does not work.

a reply to: Grambler

I mean, we anarchists and Anti-fascists, have existed for decades, we are not a new 'phenomenon', when we did things during Obama's administration the Media stayed away because they didn't have a narrative to play, now with Trump, the media is exploiting this 'Trump-Vs-Anti-Trump" narrative.