Statue of Confederate General R.E.Lee Removed.

a reply to: thesaneone

The people didn't have their voices heard. This was a crusade for votes by a bald, fat, cuck of a mayor...

a reply to: The3murph

The fact that they are so named, still do not change my point of view of who they are and represented
intellectually retarded one.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: introvert

Agreed. But this wasn't that. It was a mayor on a mission to further his political prospects.

Then I disagree with his actions.

People need to decide, not politicians trying to placate for political capital.

a reply to: Spider879

As I've said earlier. Where does it end?

How far and wide do you want this go go?

a reply to: The3murph

I and others say white southern hero.

a reply to: The3murph

Yes you are exactly that and it's my Nation, don't like the USA git!

a reply to: Spider879

So Andrew Jackson, George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, "LIght Horse" Harry Lee, Francis Marion, and ALL the heroes of the First Revolution. THAT makes me laugh. We are going to have one HELL of a time renaming all the MLK Boulevards and taking down all of his statues when they FINALLY open his SEALED FBI file...

Turn about being fair play and all...

a reply to: JinMI

As we agreed a museum is best for all.

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: The3murph

Yes you are exactly that and it's my Nation, don't like the USA git!

My ancestors have been in EVERY war we have fought since the French and Indian. I think WE have done far more to make this OUR nation than yours have EVER done...

a reply to: Spider879


Don't like monuments to our Brave and Gallant Boys In Gray???

Don't look at them.

THIS will NOT happen ANYWHERE else.

The rest of us have State Laws against this Taliban like behavior.

a reply to: Spider879
As I wrote, my comparison was not a good one. In this case it doesn´t fit it and of course it´s a bit different in this special circumstance. You explained it better than the OP to me and I give you credit for that.

I'm of the opinion that erasing any facet of history is a pretty bad deal, who knows how many times it's already been done. I prefer the truth, in all things. That said, I don't really understand why these monuments are being auctioned off or privatized. There are civil war battlefields that are national parks, if these monuments are to be removed, why can they not be relocated to one of the parks?

And good luck to whoever thinks all traces of this can be erased. In Gettysburg alone, there are at least 1,320 monuments and markers, honoring those on both sides. Even Sallie the dog is included.

I've been to Gettysburg several times, and maybe it's just me, about the only thing I'm thinking while there, is the horrific tragedy of far too many lives lost. When standing on the battlefield, it's impossible not to feel it.
Erasing any part of that, is just not right. Forgetting it, is just not right.
But perhaps that is the point.

a reply to: The3murph


Hardly anyone is using those men as rallying point for disunity or glorying their own racist beliefs, these statues are different.

originally posted by: TiggersTheMan
I'm of the opinion that erasing any facet of history is a pretty bad deal, who knows how many times it's already been done. I prefer the truth, in all things. That said, I don't really understand why these monuments are being auctioned off or privatized. There are civil war battlefields that are national parks, if these monuments are to be removed, why can they not be relocated to one of the parks?

And good luck to whoever thinks all traces of this can be erased. In Gettysburg alone, there are at least 1,320 monuments and markers, honoring those on both sides. Even Sallie the dog is included.

I've been to Gettysburg several times, and maybe it's just me, about the only thing I'm thinking while there, is the horrific tragedy of far too many lives lost. When standing on the battlefield, it's impossible not to feel it.
Erasing any part of that, is just not right. Forgetting it, is just not right.
But perhaps that is the point.

WELL said Sir. VERY well said...

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: The3murph


Hardly anyone is using those men as rallying point for disunity or glorying their own racist beliefs, these statues are different.

WHO ARE YOU to attempt to define them. It's not YOUR BLOOD...


Perhaps a refresher course in American history is in order for you. Please tell me WHY England made 13 separate treaties with her former Colonies at the close of the First Revolution...

Egypt had slaves and no one suggests dismantling the pyramids or other historical monuments. The West condemns ISIS for defacing/demolishing historical sites. But in the U.S. we pander to revisionism and political correctness.

Tearing down a statue doesn't erase the past, it only fuels resentment and allows history to be reshaped into propaganda.

a reply to: verschickter

That's kool and why echo chambers is not good, ATS is down like that.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
Egypt had slaves and no one suggests dismantling the pyramids or other historical monuments. The West condemns ISIS for defacing/demolishing historical sites. But in the U.S. we pander to revisionism and political correctness.

Tearing down a statue doesn't erase the past, it only fuels resentment and allows history to be reshaped into propaganda.

This right here!

Somewhere in New Orleans tonight a young man is asking his father about this and he is having to explain WHY he allowed a fat cuck of a Mayor to remove these works of art without a vote or any type of process other than him wanting to.

a reply to: The3murph

TBH, as long as you are using terms like "fat cuck", you are diminishing your argument. Come on. Half the people reading might agree in principle but the rhetoric is so insipid and juvenile - they don't want to associate with either the coarseness or the forum bro mentality.