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originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Greggers
Let's be clear. My bias is anti trump. My bias is also anti ignorance. It's obvious how many people, especially those who are vocally anti trump here, latched onto this as true. It really hurts everyone's credibility.
I am sorry I was an a hole to you, you are correct it was unwarranted. I am just getting tired of having to deny ignorance and end up looking like a Trump supporter because ATS political posters have decided to just go full retard.
originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: xuenchen
You need to fix your link.
Right now it goes no where.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: xuenchen
Oh man, hook line and sinker!!!! This is a 4Chan HOAX
This has been discussed in this thread already. It does not appear to be a 4Chan hoax, at least not conclusively, and certainly not in its entirety.
The primary allegations come from a former intelligence operator and do NOT involve hookers or sex or peeing.
But that is the confusing part.
If the original report did not include those things, then how did it end up getting added to it? The intelligence agencies apparently met with Trump and Obama about these allegations.
So are you suggesting the we the people should take the media and intelligence agencies word on Russia, despite the fact that when they do release some of their evidence it is proven to be false. But we should trust them without any evidence on all of their other claims.
It makes no sense. If part of this document is proven to be false, I am not going to believe the rest of it.
First, none of it has been proven to be false.
Just like none of it has been proven to be true.
Furthermore, neither the CIA nor CNN or any other media outlet that I'm aware of has claimed the allegations to be true.
The story is that the CIA thought it was worthy of sharing with the President and President Elect.
Anyone who has followed the UFO forums around here knows our intelligence agencies have a habit of collecting every relevant piece of intelligence and filing it away for safe keeping, whether it's true or not. Evidently they thought this was worth sharing in the Presidential briefing, perhaps because of the potential for blackmail.
Well Cohen says he was never in Prague and his passport proves that, and most outlets are admitting that seems accurate.
So it seems that that part of the dossier is false.
So how can we trust the rest of the dossier?
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Yes, it's in the document. You can go to Buzzfeed and read it. I can't link directly to the page because it's an embedded PDF in their story.
originally posted by: defiythelie
a reply to: SoulSurfer
Yeah that 4chan bit is BS. This was first reported by mother Jones in November a few days before any 4chan thread came along. The 35 page file buzzfeed posted came from ex Mi6 agent that gave the info to John McCain. McCain gave it to the FBI.
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Greggers
Sorry, you are wrong and so is everyone else grasping at this straw. 4chan has the cached threads which I posted previously. Their threads are identical to what we see in the report and are from SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
We also know Jake Tapper is now recanting his report.
It's so obvious this was a media troll job.
Can you provide me a link to your posting of these cached 4chan threads?
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Greggers
John McCain has admitted he was the source to the FBI, which matches 4Chan's story of events.
Source
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Greggers
John McCain has admitted he was the source to the FBI, which matches 4Chan's story of events.
Source
I'm looking through the 4Chan links now.
If what they are claiming is true, this is indeed FAKE NEWS via the commonly accepted definition. As it's all a baldfaced lie. Not only are the allegations not true (which is ancillary to whether this is fake news), but the dossier is NOT a CIA document and was NOT shared with the President.
If that is true, I would hope the CIA will step forward and squash this.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: Greggers
John McCain has admitted he was the source to the FBI, which matches 4Chan's story of events.
Source
I'm looking through the 4Chan links now.
If what they are claiming is true, this is indeed FAKE NEWS via the commonly accepted definition. As it's all a baldfaced lie. Not only are the allegations not true (which is ancillary to whether this is fake news), but the dossier is NOT a CIA document and was NOT shared with the President.
If that is true, I would hope the CIA will step forward and squash this.
How does this prove the CIA did not share this info with Trump? Cnn claims they did share this info with Trump and Obama.
4 chan is claiming they started the story, and it grew such legs as even the CIA picked it up.