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Rachel Maddow: Poll Reveals Trump Voters Are in Alternate State of Reality

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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: interupt42

The left and right are not one in the same.




posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: imitator
a reply to: reldra

This is getting sad.... let it go, just let it go........




And slowly fade away..it's bad




They can't.



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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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So just wondering... to get to a 50% approval rating, with only 9 percent of Republicans, does that mean independants and Democrats have his approval rating somewhere above 80%? I find this hard to believe if some of the deplorables are Democrat and independent



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: interupt42

I disagree , she lost because of the reasons i already stated which primarily deals with her suck factor being greater than trump and from her own doing.



I completely disagree with that.

Hillary was totally "Swiftboated".

The election was so close - - - - if voters didn't believe the Lies and Hype from the Right - - - Hillary would have won more then the popular vote.



ofcourse you do , your denial was an example of why she lost.=


Denial?

Anyone taking a stance that she wasn't targeted is in denial.


of course she was targeted but so was trump. i never said she wasnt.

however the kicker was it turns out that the real story and facts on her were more damming than the fake stories.

she lost because nobody in their right mind thinks the best candidate for the job is someone under criminal investigation by the fbi, who secretly has her husband meet up with the attorney general days before her prosecution decision.

her ability to match trump on every scandal was also a red flag.

had the dnc not gone with hillary, trump would have lost in a landslide. they should have pickef bernie.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

The left and right are not one in the same.


verbally no , action yes for the most part

. both give you bigger govt, more taxes, more corporate friendly laws, more world conflict, less personal rights and more bs lesser evil candidates .


lobbyist dont spend billions and be willing to take 50 50 odds. the two party system is designed to seperate the people and keep them fighting among themselves while they rob you blind.
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee

Absolutely. FOX has been grooming their viewers for the angry, fearful, xenophobic fake news for a long time now. For some FOX isnt good enough anymore-- they need news that comes from twitter accounts linked to newly created fake news sites.


I KNOW.

I used to be Republican and a FOX news watcher.

I'm from SoCA - - but, spent 20 years in S AZ.

I KNOW how they think.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

The left and right are not one in the same.


verbally no , action yes for the most part

. both give you bigger govt, more taxes, more corporate friendly laws, more world conflict, less personal rights and more bs lesser evil candidates .


lobbyist dont spend billions and be willing to take 50 50 odds. the two party system is designed to seperate the people and keep them fighting among themselves while they rob you blind.


I find that to be untrue. The catch phrase is that TPTB keep us divided into 2 for their own gain. Also that only 'sheeple' pick a side. That is much too simplistic. The 2 sides are not the same. One side can be mean, racist at times- but hides it for the most part, classist, xenophobic, insults college students, makes up insane things like a candidate hiding a colostomy bag in her suit, that a President is from Kenya and his wife is a man. Calls all criticism whiny tears. I will let you guess which side does that.
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It definitely is not the side I am on, because I am a thoughtful, empathetic and sane person.
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: burgerbuddy
The Rachel Maddow crying video was posted a few times, you are late. It also has nothing to do with the OP.

By page 21, people who reply should read the article and see the video, at least. Possibly click on links in the OP.

It is a little late in the game to just see a title and reply based on instinct.

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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Interesting - I'm from SoCA too, but spent 20 years in a few states in the midwest. I see it too...



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: LifeMode
Republicans don't believe in polls anymore. Them being all wrong had a lot to do with it.


So damn true that.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: reldra

Ok reldra. So the election was essentially split down the middle (with Clinton having a few percentage points higher in the popular vote). This means half the nation voted Trump so half the nation is raving lunatics? Seriously?

In a way you are doing what Hillary did. Rather than go after whatever issues you have with Trump policies.... you are attacking your fellow citizens (many of which may be your friends in real life or on the interwebz).


If half of all the illegals voted as well and we use the lowest estimate of their numbers that would mean hillary would lose about 15 million votes when we would deduct those illegal votes.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: LifeMode
Republicans don't believe in polls anymore. Them being all wrong had a lot to do with it.


So damn true that.


That is why I gave a link to PPP and gave examples of their accuracy. Their 'about' page shows their system which is different from other polling companies and weights more fairly.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
a reply to: reldra

There isn't much to discuss on the topic simply because we all know what the OP in the article has a past history of bias information. You essentially brought yourself to the slaughterhouse.


Agreed.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: reldra

Ok reldra. So the election was essentially split down the middle (with Clinton having a few percentage points higher in the popular vote). This means half the nation voted Trump so half the nation is raving lunatics? Seriously?

In a way you are doing what Hillary did. Rather than go after whatever issues you have with Trump policies.... you are attacking your fellow citizens (many of which may be your friends in real life or on the interwebz).


If half of all the illegals voted as well and we use the lowest estimate of their numbers that would mean hillary would lose about 15 million votes when we would deduct those illegal votes.


But they did not vote. Even if, in the odd reality some live in half did vote, that would be about 5.5 mil. How many illegals do you believe live here?
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Reality is this:
Everyone who was so dead certain Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide...bringing the House & Senate along on her pantsuit tails...was living in an 'alternate' reality.



Well a lot of hillary voters were dead...certain with all those officially deceased voters that appeared on her voting lists.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee

Interesting - I'm from SoCA too, but spent 20 years in a few states in the midwest. I see it too...


The thing about SoCA is - - you don't have to unlearn anything. You grow up knowing, pretty much, all things exist. And "Live and Let Live".

People don't really discuss religion here - - unless you bring it up.

Its kind of an "every man/woman for him/herself" kind of place. You are what you make yourself to be.

I don't think I could live where there are "Rules of Society" - - if you know what I mean.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Reality is this:
Everyone who was so dead certain Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide...bringing the House & Senate along on her pantsuit tails...was living in an 'alternate' reality.



Well a lot of hillary voters were dead...certain with all those officially deceased voters that appeared on her voting lists.


Some who died were still registered, but did not vote. you are proving the OP. A second time. Thank you.
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42

The left and right are not one in the same.


verbally no , action yes for the most part

. both give you bigger govt, more taxes, more corporate friendly laws, more world conflict, less personal rights and more bs lesser evil candidates .


lobbyist dont spend billions and be willing to take 50 50 odds. the two party system is designed to seperate the people and keep them fighting among themselves while they rob you blind.


I find that to be untrue. The catch phrase is that TPTB keep us divided into 2 for their own gain. Also that only 'sheeple' pick a side. That is much too simplistic. The 2 sides are not the same. One side can be mean, racist at times- but hides it for the most part, classist, xenophobic, insults college students, makes up insane things like a candidate hiding a colostomy bag in her suit, that a President is from Kenya and his wife is a man. Calls all criticism whiny tears. I will let you guess which side does that.

It definitely is not the side I am on, because I am a thoughtful, empathetic and sane person.



it is that simple its about money. politics is a business not political ideology fairy tales.


go look at the stanford study and larry lessig harvard professor research on how money is the deciding factor regardless of political ideals or the peoples choice.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: LifeMode

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: LifeMode
Republicans don't believe in polls anymore. Them being all wrong had a lot to do with it.


That is why I looked at this polling company closely as well.


This polling company got the election WRONG. Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad LW poll.

Go get a poll from one that got the election right. There are maybe like 3 out of 100.


That is what she meant by "That is why I looked at this polling company closely as well."
Why do you think she chose to use this company to "prove" her "point".



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee

Absolutely. FOX has been grooming their viewers for the angry, fearful, xenophobic fake news for a long time now. For some FOX isnt good enough anymore-- they need news that comes from twitter accounts linked to newly created fake news sites.


News porn. You start off with a harmless story or two about deplorables and some funny college snowflake material, and before you know it you're reading articles about Kenyan Communists infiltrating the US government and material so extreme even Stormfront won't allow it.



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