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originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: interupt42
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: interupt42
I disagree , she lost because of the reasons i already stated which primarily deals with her suck factor being greater than trump and from her own doing.
I completely disagree with that.
Hillary was totally "Swiftboated".
The election was so close - - - - if voters didn't believe the Lies and Hype from the Right - - - Hillary would have won more then the popular vote.
ofcourse you do , your denial was an example of why she lost.=
Denial?
Anyone taking a stance that she wasn't targeted is in denial.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42
The left and right are not one in the same.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee
Absolutely. FOX has been grooming their viewers for the angry, fearful, xenophobic fake news for a long time now. For some FOX isnt good enough anymore-- they need news that comes from twitter accounts linked to newly created fake news sites.
originally posted by: interupt42
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42
The left and right are not one in the same.
verbally no , action yes for the most part
. both give you bigger govt, more taxes, more corporate friendly laws, more world conflict, less personal rights and more bs lesser evil candidates .
lobbyist dont spend billions and be willing to take 50 50 odds. the two party system is designed to seperate the people and keep them fighting among themselves while they rob you blind.
originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: reldra
Ok reldra. So the election was essentially split down the middle (with Clinton having a few percentage points higher in the popular vote). This means half the nation voted Trump so half the nation is raving lunatics? Seriously?
In a way you are doing what Hillary did. Rather than go after whatever issues you have with Trump policies.... you are attacking your fellow citizens (many of which may be your friends in real life or on the interwebz).
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: LifeMode
Republicans don't believe in polls anymore. Them being all wrong had a lot to do with it.
So damn true that.
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: reldra
Ok reldra. So the election was essentially split down the middle (with Clinton having a few percentage points higher in the popular vote). This means half the nation voted Trump so half the nation is raving lunatics? Seriously?
In a way you are doing what Hillary did. Rather than go after whatever issues you have with Trump policies.... you are attacking your fellow citizens (many of which may be your friends in real life or on the interwebz).
If half of all the illegals voted as well and we use the lowest estimate of their numbers that would mean hillary would lose about 15 million votes when we would deduct those illegal votes.
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Reality is this:
Everyone who was so dead certain Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide...bringing the House & Senate along on her pantsuit tails...was living in an 'alternate' reality.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee
Interesting - I'm from SoCA too, but spent 20 years in a few states in the midwest. I see it too...
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Reality is this:
Everyone who was so dead certain Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide...bringing the House & Senate along on her pantsuit tails...was living in an 'alternate' reality.
Well a lot of hillary voters were dead...certain with all those officially deceased voters that appeared on her voting lists.
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: interupt42
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: interupt42
The left and right are not one in the same.
verbally no , action yes for the most part
. both give you bigger govt, more taxes, more corporate friendly laws, more world conflict, less personal rights and more bs lesser evil candidates .
lobbyist dont spend billions and be willing to take 50 50 odds. the two party system is designed to seperate the people and keep them fighting among themselves while they rob you blind.
I find that to be untrue. The catch phrase is that TPTB keep us divided into 2 for their own gain. Also that only 'sheeple' pick a side. That is much too simplistic. The 2 sides are not the same. One side can be mean, racist at times- but hides it for the most part, classist, xenophobic, insults college students, makes up insane things like a candidate hiding a colostomy bag in her suit, that a President is from Kenya and his wife is a man. Calls all criticism whiny tears. I will let you guess which side does that.
It definitely is not the side I am on, because I am a thoughtful, empathetic and sane person.
originally posted by: LifeMode
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: LifeMode
Republicans don't believe in polls anymore. Them being all wrong had a lot to do with it.
That is why I looked at this polling company closely as well.
This polling company got the election WRONG. Terrible, horrible, no good, very bad LW poll.
Go get a poll from one that got the election right. There are maybe like 3 out of 100.
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Annee
Absolutely. FOX has been grooming their viewers for the angry, fearful, xenophobic fake news for a long time now. For some FOX isnt good enough anymore-- they need news that comes from twitter accounts linked to newly created fake news sites.