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originally posted by: duke396
How dare some guy we've never heard of take issue with one of our own who's put his heart and soul into doing solid work and made it all available for free? Start a slap fight and kick up a fuss on social media all because Isaac wants to remain anonymous for personal reasons? Ridiculous.
So far, almost everybody posting in this thread cares if he leaves, except you apparently.
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: zazzafrazz
Seems to me that everyone in Ufology should be working in the open and not using a pseudonym. We need credibility not anonynimity. I agree
Isaac should reveal who he is. That's not bullying, that honesty. Issac is acting like a delicate snowflake. Who cares if he leaves!?
ATS has a saying, "attack the ball, not the player". In this case the ball is the so-called Roswell slide of the "alien" that turned out to be a photo of a mummified boy, or are you talking about something else?
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
reply to: IsaacKoi
So long snowflake. Can't take the heat, but you sure can dish it out. You really lambasted Donald Schmitt, but someone riles you and you grab your stuff and stomp out like a butt hurt little boy.
At least you admit IsaacKoi's research is good, thanks for admitting that much, and that's why nobody here besides you wants him to leave ufology. If Donald Schmitt is a UFO researcher interested in the truth, then why wouldn't he welcome information about what the slide of the mummified two year old boy really shows?
Your research was good, but you regularly used it to ridicule instead of help other Ufologists.
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
No one will miss your sour attitude. Your research was good, but you regularly used it to ridicule instead of help other Ufologists. Good riddance.
I don't see that lesson at all. The criticism I saw was of the slide of the "alien" that was actually the mummified body of a two year old boy. Isaac Koi is not relevant to what the text on that slide says, you can analyze that slide yourself, so you're obfuscating the issue by claiming it's got anything to do with Isaac Koi. You don't need anything from Isaac Koi to analyze that slide yourself, so I'll ask you the same question Ted Roe was asked countless times but refused to answer:
originally posted by: Anaana
The lesson here is not that we are not able to criticise others with impunity behind a screen of anonymity and that we can be made answerable for our comments and what we write, most of us know that, the lesson is that it is ultimately worthless unless, when pressed, we are willing to stand behind what we have said in 'real life'.
I have a completely different perspective.
originally posted by: Anaana
He took a cheap, low shot, but it delivered. That's the lesson. ATS is a bubble, what we do or do not accomplish here can be dismissed, ridiculed and ignored from the outside, by those we criticise unless we are willing to put our names behind it.
But that is exactly the problem here, it's not the research that's being challenged. If something is wrong with the research on the Roswell slide why isn't the focus on that? Challenge that all you want, but I don't see how whether the barrister's name is Joe Smith or Frank Presley or something else has any bearing on the caption of the mummified boy slide...it doesn't.
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Finally, all good researchers are challenged. If he cannot take it, he doesn't have the qualities needed to be an investigator.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
But that is exactly the problem here, it's not the research that's being challenged. If something is wrong with the research on the Roswell slide why isn't the focus on that? Challenge that all you want, but I don't see how whether the barrister's name is Joe Smith or Frank Presley or something else has any bearing on the caption of the mummified boy slide...it doesn't.
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Finally, all good researchers are challenged. If he cannot take it, he doesn't have the qualities needed to be an investigator.