White House: Obama ‘Profoundly Frustrated’ — Ready For More Executive Action On Gun Control

originally posted by: Willtell
The REAL reason for all this gun law obsession in America

I was thinking about making this an OP but I don't want to make a big deal out of this...keep it low key
I don't want anybody getting too upset over this but here is the truth

So here's the deal folks...


When they come and get us to put us in the Fema camps THE PEOPLE WITH GUNS MAY UNFORTUNATLEY GET THEIR CHILDREN HURT AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD EXTERMINATED because of the few with guns.


So in a ironic twist the idea of taking guns away from us is a merciful one.

Believe me folks there going to get our assess!

Those guns you will have will not prevent this

It will only cause more death and destruction in the day they come to arrest you

The Europeans will go along peacefully to the camps over there without much unnecessary violence because they have what they says are sane gun laws on the most part

But a lot of Americans are going to be hard headed and stubborn and all their going to do is get their loved ones hurt.

Cant you folks see this

The writing is on the wall

And it says

Their coming soon one way or the other

That may be your hope an interpretation But i do not think the military will stand for it when people they are sworn to protec are getting killed to protect their rights. Also Anyone trying to take me to a FEMA camp is going to die. Flat out no chances given. And IF i get killed im taking as many as i can with me. BEcoming a martry for the cause of freedom. Great way to go in my opinion. My family and neighbors feel the same way.
Were ready to die for our rights. how many of their jack boot thugs are ready to die for theirs?

a reply to: yuppa

But yuppa...why do you worry that will happen?

It won't happen. Do you not see how much energy and effort and emotion you spend on this fantasy scenario?
It isn't going to happen!

This is simply awesome.

The people aren't arguing WHAT was said.

Since over 80 years of gun control confirms it.

They argue over WHO said it.

Absolutely effing priceless.

"People" keep stressing "it won't ever happen".

That scares me bigtime.

Public opinion from certain groups of people have been wrong too many times before.

Jews in Europe were told the same thing in the 1920s.

a reply to: xuenchen

That's because American history only started 8 years ago.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: yuppa

But yuppa...why do you worry that will happen?

It won't happen. Do you not see how much energy and effort and emotion you spend on this fantasy scenario?
It isn't going to happen!

Its possible.. maybe not probably in our lifetime but it could happen.

I imagine he doesnt waste to much energy and emotion on it, I know I dont...

Its something you talk about with like minded people, lay in any plans you feel necessary and then carry on with your life, there is nothing wrong with being prepared... it helps to deal with the situation when or if it occurs.

It can't happen.

Chicago Police Confiscate 2,800 Guns From City Streets Since January 1


Confiscation Of Registered
Guns Begins In Illinois

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: yuppa

But yuppa...why do you worry that will happen?

It won't happen. Do you not see how much energy and effort and emotion you spend on this fantasy scenario?
It isn't going to happen!

Not worried because the polticians are to scared of what will happen if they try it. Im just stating a fact on what will happen if they get stupid enough to try. Thats all. and that didnt take any energy at all. i write stories and that was typed up in less than 2 mins.(yeah i know you mena something else lol)

I am wary about the actions of the past re occurring though. And anyone but clinton. She will be worse than anything so far.

a reply to: xuenchen

www.fox2detroit.com...

Same in Detroit.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

Oh no problem. I actually like good conversations like this.

It's going to take a lot of work and brutal honesty if we actually want to stop the major terrorist groups. I say that because all of the major groups follow a violent form of Wahhabism. This includes Boko Haram in Nigeria and neighboring Chad; Al Shabaab in Somalia; al Qaeda; ISIS/Daesh in Iraq, Syria, and now Libya & Yemen; the Taliban in Afghanistan; etc.

The conflict comes because Saudi Arabia and Qatar are the 2 major Wahhabi centers of power. They're both also strong allies of the West. They invest heavily in Western industries and real estate, purchase extremely lucrative defense contracts with Western companies, and are staunch backers of the petrodollar. The UK and US have military bases in Qatar, with the US having bases throughout the Arabian Peninsula's countries specifically to prop up and secure their regimes.

But they're also major promoters of Wahhabism all over the world, including in mosques and in proxy wars. And the West has been using Wahhabi troops as proxy soldiers since at least the Cold War. For example, the West used Wahhabi "jihadists/muhajideen" in the war in Chechnya, the Afghan-Russian War, the Balkans War, in Syria right now against Assad, and even in Libya against Qaddafi. The broad collection of groups that would become known as "Al Qaeda" fought alongside US backed "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan, as did the groups that would become the Taliban.

So this brings an interesting dilemma. How can Western countries claim we are against these violent Wahhabi groups when we're literally using them as "boots on the ground" in proxy wars? In the leaked transcripts between Tony Blair and Qaddafi (here's an ATS thread about it), Qaddafi complained that the groups attacking the Libyan regime were Al Qaeda. So which side did NATO attack? And right after the NATO attack on Libya, some of those very same Libyan "rebels" entered Mali where they were immediately labeled "terrorists" and attacked by the French military.

In short, if we actually are trying to fight those groups, we need to stop arming their power centers, their affiliated "rebel groups", and the countries that harbor them. And we need to have financial sanctions on the businesses and powerbrokers in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait who are funding and enabling them (at least until they can clean up their mess). And of course we'd need to stop funding, training, and arming countless fake rebel groups that always "coincidentally" join up with the very groups we claim we're fighting.

To put it in perspective, Qatar has less than 300,000 citizens and 2-3 million poor foreign workers. And Saudi Arabia has roughly the same population as the state of Texas. And we have military bases throughout the region. So if we were actually trying to profile or track down the powerbrokers behind those terrorist groups, we could do it much more effectively if we started there. But I don't think we'll do that because that would tip the regional balance of power towards Iran and away from Israel and our GCC allies (the GCC is headed by Saudi Arabia and is in a virtual Cold War against Iran). I think our govts have concluded that the occasional terrorist attack here is worth keeping the alliance with those countries and the use of their proxy troops.

Oh & here's an old pic of the US bases in that region. The pic is about Iran, but I want you to look at where our bases are in relation to Saudi Arabia and Qatar. This should put it into perspective.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: JinMI

That is exactly what is happening. I'm not sure how much more clear it can be.

Nope! No. It really isn't.
It's your imagination, fueled by sensationalist propaganda-peddlers.

That is just not happening.

What rights have you lost?

It's definitely happening.

What an ABSOLUTE MORON.

But in President Obama’s first foray into small-arms procurement for the armed forces, his Jan. 4 executive order on gun control directs the Pentagon to find ways to make not so much more lethal firearms, but safer ones.

www.washingtontimes.com...

Whiskey.

Tango

Foxtrot.

How does that make the 'streets' safer ?

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Here's a thought.

READ or don't comment.

Because Those were SOURCED.

BONUS ADOLF HITER QUOTE “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.” SOURCES: Adolf Hitler Quotes Adolf Hitler Quotes: Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler Quotes Adolf Hitler Quotes

If this is true, then why do the vast majority of today's actual NeoNazis support the right wing and the Republican Party?

a reply to: enlightenedservant

You'll have to ask the SOCIALISTS pushing gun control.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

IMO, Islam could be a potent force against globalist types. I know a few guys, a Kosovar and a Pakistani, and I've been to mosque with them. It was a positive experience for me.

Muslims have strong cultural cohesion, they are devoted to family and faith, and they're generally less susceptible to globalist propaganda. I've never understood the hatred that self-proclaimed Western conservative "anti-globalists" have for Islam. Countries like Iran are some of the few that are actually holding out against the incessant encroachment.

A great portion of Muslim terrorism has been deliberately manufactured. They don't want Western traditionalist dissidents and Muslims uniting against a common foe.

Mark my words, there are still holdouts in the world that won't bow to some fascist world order. Many Muslims are among those holdouts.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

All with a few hundred members.

Their confusion.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

If this is true, then why do the vast majority of today's actual NeoNazis support the right wing and the Republican Party?

Numbers please. Need facts on this to keep me from calling BS . REAL facts.Or is is another case of "just words , just speeches" ?
And in , you have a right to support anyone. Whether or not the party accepts that support.Of course , no party declines support . Even the extreme Liberal left.

Eff congress, and the people, and the constitution.

He's got a pen and phone.

Looking at how the War on Drugs turned out, how do you think the War on Guns will go?