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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: luthier
Oh, no, blacks had better, more stable, more coherent culture right up until the Great Society. For one thing, they tended to have nuclear families with actual fathers in the house. They prized education.
These things are gone now.
Most blacks grow up in single parent homes and have for more than one generation. They no longer prize education; it is "acting white."
These two things along with others have taken an appreciable toll.
originally posted by: dreamingawake
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
I found quite a few cases...
1) an Alabama police officer raped a woman with car trouble....he got 4 months...
2) a billionaire raped a 12 year old..6 months.
I know this won't be favorable on the site now days but you do have a point with sharing this. I believe that as well with many of the wrongly convicted people(for various claimed crimes) that ended up serving nearly life terms until they were DNA tested, etc- if even given that chance.
Also, partly has to do with class-ism, poorer areas have the cycle of crime and poverty. Some of the people have prior criminal records that are seemingly focused on when determining whether the person may be more likely a re peat offender.
Maybe making you need BOTH to be Ritch and white to get away with just about anything....
Or just rich all around. Class-ism at it's finest.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
Can you point out where I said white is always a privilege?
Was your mom forced to use another drinking fountain?
Just wondering how you dont see a correlation of massive injustice done to the blacks, them being treated as second class, and then bombarded with the war on drugs and poverty.
Sure there are laws now. We may see there effect in about 70 years or so as the succeeding generations loose their connection to the injustice period.
Black mobs? We're they hanging white woman, children, and men from trees. Like actual judges and cops taking part in it?
No.
Yes there is way to much emphasis on white privilege because that isn't the case. It institutional racism and thr lack of a proper pathway for integrating black culture into areas people don't like blacks. Which for a while was much of the country.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler
Uh no being wealthy over the whole scale is not a bigger factor. When 1 in 15 black men are in jail vs 1 in 106 whites your statements dony make sense. Corresponding with a 700 percent increase in incarcerations right after the civil rights legislation. That number actually out paced crime. Do you get what that means?
Again it may not be white privilege because yeah poor white guys get thrown the book too. Statistically still not even close to the same rate for the same crimes.
Even in schools same thing.
Voting well lots of black felons thanks to the drug laws.
Pay far less for same work on average. Double bad for black women.
Yeah we should be screaming about sexism too. Though there is an 800 percent increase in female prisoners Again unproportionally black.
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: luthier
The problem is the solutions to institutional racism are hurting black people. The war on poverty has left many black communities totally dependent on government dollars, and as a result the many black communities are worse off today than they were during Jim Crow laws. You have even suggested giving blacks a guaranteed income on this thread as a form of reparations. This would make these communities even more dependent on government.
What happened to blacks in this country was atrocious, but to take away any blame from blacks in todays world and to say they need special incomes or privileges is treating them like children. This is a form of bigotry. I will hold black folks to the same standard I hold people of all colors.
Every culture throughout history has gone through horrible situations. Are Jews unable to fit into society because of the Holocaust? It is time to stop making excuses. You think it will take 70 more years before black culture can move beyond there treatment? That is absurd.
Black mobs are killing white women, men, and children. In fact, blacks are 27 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa, as shown on the doj fact sheet I posted above. This is institutionally sanctioned as the media and government make excuses for this behavior, and largely ignore it. In fact, "white" culture is almost universally criticized and blamed for all of the evils of the world. You mention separate water fountains, yet ironically it is now black groups particularly on campuses that are demanding there own spaces.
And stop acting like blacks are monolithic. In most areas of the US, whites have totally accepted blacks. The idea of white racism in today's world is vastly overblown. Yet groups like BLM and all of the black on white violence show many blacks hate whites. You trying to paint it as only a problem of innocent blacks wanting to fit in but racists whites not allowing them is a joke.