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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: KlassifiedThere is a problem because Elijah did not die and therefore cannot be reincarnated. One must have died to be incarnated again.
The funny thing is many will not take the bible literal except where they want to in order to try and find fault or error.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Klassified
Could not this letter have come from beyond by the hand of an unnamed prophet?
Of course it cold.
Another answer is there are two king Jeroham. One who is a king of Israel and the other a king of Judah. there are two sets of kings one over ten tribes to the north and one over two tribes in Judah.
Could not this letter have come from beyond by the hand of an unnamed prophet?
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
The funny thing is many will not take the bible literal except where they want to in order to try and find fault or error.
One must have died to be incarnated again.
This is not the case with Elijah. And neither is Elijah a liberated spirit seeing he was taken body and soul up into heaven. He is not a spirit to possess someone else's body because he has his own body. A man cannot exist in two bodies at the same time.
Reincarnation is the philosophical or religious concept that a living being after biological death, can begin a new life in a new body. This is also called rebirth or transmigration, and is a part of the Saṃsāra doctrine of cyclic existence.Reincarnation
It is a valid argument seeing the very meaning of reincarnation means that the first body dies and they are born into another body. Also reincarnation is considered a Phylosophy.
And neither is Elijah a liberated spirit seeing he was taken body and soul up into heaven.
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: KlassifiedIt is not a mystery, a problem or an error. There was a divided kingdom and two men with the same name and both were kings of their respective kingdoms.
Ahab was A king of the northern kingdom as was his son Jehoram. But the Jehoram you mention is king of Judah, these are two different kings. And Elijah was present during the reign of King Jehoram king of Judah but not during the reign of Jehoram king of Israel.
You must have missed the terms of requirements for reincarnation "BIOLOGICAL DEATH".
Elijah still has his original body and unless you can prove he does not then he cannot be re-incarnated.
The wind verse is about God's Spirit and his work
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
You are the one making stuff up.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: ChesterJohn
The wind verse is about God's Spirit and his work
Not it's not. Stop making stuff up to fit your personal biases!
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Devils had bodies at one time then they were killed off in the flood found in Genesis 1:2.
Now you re confusing possession with reincarnation and the two are not the same.
As far as John being a reincarnation of Elijah you are incorrect because he was taken bodily into heaven. He still has his body. No proof that he does not have his body anymore lay on you not the scriptures.
I know reincarnation just fine it is you who deny its fundamental requirement of biological death of one body before the supposed soul it is born into a new body via biological birth.
"I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
.....so is EVERYONE that is born of the Spirit.