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UFO Hunter Admits And Proves WIth Video Evidence He Has Been Filming Glowing Nocturnal Birds

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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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Phage beat me to it regarding personal statements.




posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: DebtSlave

More likely that they cannot rationalize there experience in any normal context.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave
a reply to: 3danimator2014

The point I am making is this, you claim you want good video evidence... however, the better the evidence, the more likely people like you are going to say it's just CGI! I think what you need is a personal experience, and I think you should be listening to others personal experiences as well. These ghost and UFO paranormal sightings are not all just a coincidence. Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.



No. As i stated. I will believe it when millions or even ten of thousands of people witness it. When thousands of videos (even crappy ones) of the same event appear on youtube , i will pay attention. When a Lamborghini is clamped in a big city, there are a dozen youtube videos of it. But there is only ever ONE of the UFO video that's being shown. I'm not asking for picture perfect video (and by the way, i have been doing CGI since 1992 and i specialise in photo-real stuff...i assure you, I and countless others can tell the difference between great cgi and real), but what im asking for is more than a handful of people "witnessing" the event.

When the news starts seriously reporting it, i will also listen. Im in no way asking for high res images of crafts...just a little common sense. Like the guy in the Ops video shows



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?


Not at all! Of course not.

Well, im not. They are just mistaken, over excited, many reasons.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: DebtSlave

More likely that they cannot rationalize there experience in any normal context.


Bingo.

2nd line



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?

No. I'm saying that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?

No. I'm saying that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.


Its as if no one has seen "My Cousin Vinny!"



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Dont believe everything you see. I know I get that and youre right, it is unreliable. However, sometimes, it is reliable, correct? Specifically with other, correlated info, or multi witness eye witness encounters.

Discerning is the hard part. Thats the journey though isnt it? Honing those skills of discernment.
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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: DebtSlave
a reply to: 3danimator2014

The point I am making is this, you claim you want good video evidence... however, the better the evidence, the more likely people like you are going to say it's just CGI! I think what you need is a personal experience, and I think you should be listening to others personal experiences as well. These ghost and UFO paranormal sightings are not all just a coincidence. Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.



No. As i stated. I will believe it when millions or even ten of thousands of people witness it. When thousands of videos (even crappy ones) of the same event appear on youtube , i will pay attention. When a Lamborghini is clamped in a big city, there are a dozen youtube videos of it. But there is only ever ONE of the UFO video that's being shown. I'm not asking for picture perfect video (and by the way, i have been doing CGI since 1992 and i specialise in photo-real stuff...i assure you, I and countless others can tell the difference between great cgi and real), but what im asking for is more than a handful of people "witnessing" the event.

When the news starts seriously reporting it, i will also listen. Im in no way asking for high res images of crafts...just a little common sense. Like the guy in the Ops video shows


Hmm... you might be asking for a little too much. You are saying you need at least 20,000 people to witness the event. That's never gonna happen.

I would, if you are interested in the paranormal, watch Ghost Adventures. They get balls of light that talk into voice recorders and are filmed at the same time. Remember, something can be scientifically proven if it can be repeated over and over. YouTube search "EVP" and you will find... probably over 20,000 videos.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: DebtSlave

Much of the problem lies with assumption. Someone sees something they can't explain and they assume the answer lies in the paranormal or the enexplained. Something moves through they sky unconventionally? Aliens. A shadow moves across a wall? Demon. The assumption is made because the witness sees something that defies current and commonly held truths. The problem with the assumption is that it never takes into account the mundane reality that is far more plausible.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?

No. I'm saying that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.


So you think all ghost and UFO witnesses are... unreliable? Ok then.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: In4ormant

I agree that our bias and wishful thinking, along with irrationality can distort the shared information or perception of the event.

I dont think it explains away everything, but it explains most.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: DebtSlave
a reply to: 3danimator2014

The point I am making is this, you claim you want good video evidence... however, the better the evidence, the more likely people like you are going to say it's just CGI! I think what you need is a personal experience, and I think you should be listening to others personal experiences as well. These ghost and UFO paranormal sightings are not all just a coincidence. Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.



No. As i stated. I will believe it when millions or even ten of thousands of people witness it. When thousands of videos (even crappy ones) of the same event appear on youtube , i will pay attention. When a Lamborghini is clamped in a big city, there are a dozen youtube videos of it. But there is only ever ONE of the UFO video that's being shown. I'm not asking for picture perfect video (and by the way, i have been doing CGI since 1992 and i specialise in photo-real stuff...i assure you, I and countless others can tell the difference between great cgi and real), but what im asking for is more than a handful of people "witnessing" the event.

When the news starts seriously reporting it, i will also listen. Im in no way asking for high res images of crafts...just a little common sense. Like the guy in the Ops video shows


Hmm... you might be asking for a little too much. You are saying you need at least 20,000 people to witness the event. That's never gonna happen.


Why? If a UFO is hoverign over a city or anywhere with a large population, there could easily be that many witnesses if not more. And just in case i didnt make myself clear, i meant 20,000 videos of the SAME event. Not 20,000 individual videos of different things.

Plus my numbers are not to be taken literally. My point was LOTS of witnesses. There is no minimum number i had in mind. LOL



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: DebtSlave

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DebtSlave



Personal accounts are like witness in a trial, they are the most credible sources and to deny all of them is to deny yourself the truth.

Actually, eyewitness reports are about the least reliable evidence at trial. However, in conjunction with physical evidence which can be tied to a case, the can lend support.

How many people, convicted on eyewitness testimony, have been exonerated by DNA evidence?


So are you saying the ghost and UFO witnesses are all bat s*** crazy?

No. I'm saying that eyewitness testimony is unreliable.


So you think all ghost and UFO witnesses are... unreliable? Ok then.

No. I don't believe I said that. You seem to have a propensity for strawman arguments. I didn't say all the witnesses are crazy. I didn't say they are all unreliable.

I said that eyewitness reports are unreliable.


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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:50 PM
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I find them unreliable yes. You are deemed unreliable as a rule when you fail to entertain or seek a more plausible explanation to your experience before you accept the implausible as truth. The approach the gentleman in the OP takes needs to be practiced more often. I suspect a lot less nonsense would be circulating.



posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: DebtSlave

Much of the problem lies with assumption. Someone sees something they can't explain and they assume the answer lies in the paranormal or the enexplained. Something moves through they sky unconventionally? Aliens. A shadow moves across a wall? Demon. The assumption is made because the witness sees something that defies current and commonly held truths. The problem with the assumption is that it never takes into account the mundane reality that is far more plausible.


I said it before and ill say it again. Paranormal/religious/alien/magical assumptions for things (anything) should be the very last option.

That's why i applaud the guy in the video. He investigated HONESTLY and corrected himself.
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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

Assuming ghosts and UFOs are all evil (alien mutilations) would you make yourself known to the masses if you were a ghost or alien?

If you want to believe, start with Ghost Adventures. There is plenty of evidence out there showing there is a paranormal layer to our reality.


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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: DebtSlave
a reply to: 3danimator2014

Assuming ghosts and UFOs are all evil (alien mutilations) would you make yourself known to the masses if you were a ghost or alien?



How can i even answer this?

But ill throw it back at you. Lets assume aliens DO have malevolent intentions...why would they fly around with bright flashing lights on the outside of their ships? We have the stealth bombers that can slip into enemy territory undetected and we cant even send that many people into low earth orbit easily. They can travel here from light years away, but cant turn the lights on their ships off?


originally posted by: DebtSlave
a reply to: 3danimator2014

If you want to believe, start with Ghost Adventures. There is plenty of evidence out there showing there is a paranormal layer to our reality.



Then your understanding of the word evidence is different to mine. By the way, i'm open to ghosts being real. And i find them much more likely to be real than aliens UFOS. Still doesn't mean i believe in them yet.




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posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 08:55 PM
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I find fault with your logic here. How has something someone spoon fed you convinced you of anything?



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