The Conservatives are now slamming Fox!

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
If they are Trump supporters they are not conservative

Not only that, FOX doubled Trump on ratings for the same night

And to add to it, like I said the night it happend, and is now being reported, Mr"I cant be bought" Was trying to extort FOX for 5 million dollars to show up to the debate......

His supporters are sheep if they cant see this for what it is

You're right!

Sheep that are mostly really pissed off after listening to all the bitching of both parties the last 50 years of how they are all bought and paid for by big corporations, yet willing to try that crazy ass failed experiment "JUST ONE MORE TIME"!

LOL

Sounds like you are the one in the sheep pen!

Honestly you can say that and be a trump supporter.......Head of one of the bigest corperations in the USA and a man linked with the Clintons....


Yeah ok Trump "will make America great again" and Obama will bring "hope and change" hahaha

a reply to: DBCowboy

Which they will and the birth of the third party begins anew....

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: olaru12

Like any election, the proof will be in the voting and not in polls, or media.

But I imagine that if enough media outlets "say" that Trump is on the outs, people will fall for it.

I just hate the idea of "obeying" media.

Do you honestly think the GOP is going to nominate Trump! If he throws it into a brokered convention...then what?

I think that's his plan!

If the GOP doesn't, then they'll show themselves to be as shallow and manipulative and pathetic as the DNC.

You didn't see manipulative and pathetic with Palin/McCain? Romney?

a reply to: crazyewok

The people who back Trump are doing so on the premise that he has enough money that he doesn't need to be bought. He's financing his own.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: seeker1963

corporations, yet willing to try that crazy ass failed experiment "JUST ONE MORE TIME"!

LOL

Sounds like you are the one in the sheep pen!

I find this post highly ironic, given the case I JUST MADE about Trump and the "bought and paid for" line....did you not just hear he tried to get FOX to BUY HIM to get on the show?

Im not a suporter but IM THE sheep?

When it comes to the logic of Trump supporters:

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: olaru12

Like any election, the proof will be in the voting and not in polls, or media.

But I imagine that if enough media outlets "say" that Trump is on the outs, people will fall for it.

I just hate the idea of "obeying" media.

Do you honestly think the GOP is going to nominate Trump! If he throws it into a brokered convention...then what?

I think that's his plan!

If the GOP doesn't, then they'll show themselves to be as shallow and manipulative and pathetic as the DNC.

You didn't see manipulative and pathetic with Palin/McCain? Romney?

To be honest?

I didn't care then. Not that I think it'd make much difference now.

Politics is such an interesting game.

a reply to: crazyewok

Linked with the Clintons, you, a leftie, should love Trump, in that case.


The fact is Trump did cover that point, both honestly and up-front. To wit, (paraphrased), I did business in N.Y.. To do business in N.Y. and be successful, one donated to the Democrats. Hillary was a N.Y. senator. That's what one did....

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: seeker1963

Yes, and no, Trump really doesn't have much substance to his position beyond "I'm not Washington!" It is much like 2008's "Hope and Change" redux where you fill in the blanks as to what you want it to look like.

What will it actually be?

How many people were ultimately disillusioned by "Hope and Change"?

Hell even if by some miracle the EC let him in he will be stuck with a establishment congress that will out of pure and utter spite and determination to make his presidency a failure and block EVERRYTHING he does.

originally posted by: nwtrucker

I will take the risk that is Trump. Anything...ANYTHING that gets rid of business as usual.

But it will be.

The US presidency is not a dictator. Sure (even IF the Electrol college let him through and don’t just pick Clinton anyway) you might get Trump in but then what? You still have 90% of Congress brought, corrupt and still establishment ready to make sure his presidency is a failure.

a reply to: nwtrucker

We have two competing conservative stations here. They have a quite a variety of local talent. Some are conservative/conservative and the ones I listen to in the morning are more conservative/libertarian. There's one guy in the afternoon who fills in for Savage occasionally on one of the two stations. There is also the show that pairs the GOPe guy (the moderate) with a liberal gal.

They also have a mix of syndicated shows, too - Beck, Limbaugh, Levin and others.

You being in Washington, I imagine your version of conservative is quite a bit further to the left than the average of where I am. So it would make sense your local talk guys would fall out closer to the GOPe line than the average of mine.

a reply to: crazyewok


Not all of Congress is establishment, hopefully a number come out of the closet
if Trump, somehow, miraculously wins...

originally posted by: Sargeras


Trump is the only candidate that isn't promising failed BS.

No he is promising future failed BS

HAHAHA

"I will build a wall and make mexcio pay for it"

Well that ome failed promise. Even if he built a wall I can 100% Guarantee Mexcio wont pay for it! And I doubt you will even get a wall as Congress will block it to spite Trump.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, that thought did cross. Western Washington is very liberal. Cross the mountains into the east? Well, the rest of the state thinks Idaho is liberal....

a reply to: crazyewok

Except the wall is already "law" and has been for years....

a reply to: crazyewok

I know, my hope hangs on a thin thread, to say the least. Likely, he'd have to follow Obama's lead...in the opposite direction.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok


Not all of Congress is establishment, hopefully a number come out of the closet
if Trump, somehow, miraculously wins...

Not enough to pass any bills. I guarantee it. DC is corrupt to its very Foundations.

If Trump get through the EC and wins I will post a picture of me dressed up as uncle Sam singing the USA national Anthem!

If Trump gets elected actually gets even 10% of his idea through congress I will change my middle name to "I love America"

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok

Except the wall is already "law" and has been for years....

Yes but would Trump get the funding to repair and expand on it?

Mexico sure are not going to be paying!

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok

I know, my hope hangs on a thin thread, to say the least. Likely, he'd have to follow Obama's lead...in the opposite direction.

Don’t worry least you know your hope is likely a distant wish.

The Sanders crowd won’t even recognize that!

a reply to: crazyewok

If Trump is elected, that wall will be finished. Mexico will be paying for it. One way or another....NAFTA anyone?....

a reply to: DBCowboy

I wasn't happy with Romney or McCain either one, but I feared Obama more. I saw what was coming. They didn't manipulate me in the sense that they got my support.

If anything manipulated me, it was the Democratic party's choice.

However, if it is clear that either Trump or Cruz takes the nomination and then the convention brokers and nominates someone like Jeb! or Kasich who clearly have NO prayer of taking the nomination through the normal election process, I don't care who the Democrats put up. I am done with the GOP.

I'll vote Libertarian or similar even if it does mean we go socialist.