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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: olaru12


A threat? LOL. No, your imagination runs amok.


A personal conviction and mild articulation of contempt.


If you think I have put party over country; its your imagination run amok.

You can't differentiate between a difference of opinion and treason; I don't know what to tell you.

"extermination" really?

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad


Right up to the last line, I have no argument. I can clarify it a bit. "Corporation". A generality. Not all corporation cross the line. There is no effective alternative to the entities called corporations-which include mom and pops-therefore I draw a line.

That line is, FOR ME ONLY, I have no problem with profit. None whatsoever. The line is crossed when far more profit orientated policies, laws and actions harm the majority in that profit motive. Especially if it's repeated time after time. The TPP, WTO and the wording/application of NAFTA, not the concept of natural overlap between the three countries.

Rush commented last summer, I believe in August that per a U.K. report, Iran had finalized deals with both Airbus and Boeing to buy billions in aircraft to replace their aging fleet due to the embargo. Rush pointed out that the Iran agreement past with hardly a twitch from the GOP and pointed to this deal that greased the passing. He said, as his wont, "Follow the money trail".

But Rush is pro business, one would say...and that IS correct. But not pro business if it hurts the U.S. overall. In this instance ignoring obvious nuclear development objectives and removing full verification of sites and facilities. In other words, opens the door to a potential nuclear ME. Not a good thing. Bad for the U.S. and the rest of the world, overall.

Simply put, Rush has his line as well. Hence his move to the right into the direction of the Tea party and his current alienation by the media,corporations, the left and now the Establishment GOP.

Where we part ways is the solution to the Corporate ills we suffer from. Socialism, from what I can see, plays sooner,faster and longer into the Corporate hands that the 'real' right. Add in more control and gov't oversight on virtually every aspect of our culture-there's so much more-and the solution from the right's viewpoint is rein in the corporations, not killing them or throttling them into less jobs or 'proper' profit.

Trump. I see him as apolitical. Rich? Yes. I say so what? He's played the game from both sides...and has won at it. Alaska is a good example, they support the Unions when it is in the best interest of Alaska. The support the corporations...when it's in the best interests of Alaska. No Political party/agenda has all the right answers. A President should rightly choose the one best for the overall group-never fully agreed upon- but theoretically the right mindset.

I believe Trump is sufficiently outside the P.C.and TPTB that he MIGHT bring to the table outside the box thinking and solutions. Risk in that choice? YES. Better than business as usual.

That's my take on it. Right or wrong, that's how I see it.




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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Dammit, it was a comment in general
. Not at you! The thought never crossed.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

So in your mind, Trump would not make laws that take from the people and give to the 1%???

Trumpss tax plan shows he is a representative of the corps, not the people!



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad


Somehow even if any candidate had that design, not likely they'd promote it, would they?


The guy isn't a dummy
.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

You really think Trump has a high IQ?

Or you think he is smart because of his net worth?

I think he has a low IQ and inherited a great life!

Edit: I mean after all, he is Biff Tannen!


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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Wait what?
Isn't msnbc owned by Microsoft? Which is owned by Bill Gates... Who is far left... I hate this misconception that money equals republican, please stop spewing this disinformation... What about soros? Is he on the right? Almost all of Hollywood is far left..if you don't support liberals you may never get work. Hence the friends of Abe group



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: GraffikPleasure

It's rather obvious that there's as much variation, politically, at high level incomes/worth as it is at our level.


When it comes to labelling owners of networks as billionaires-as if anyone else could afford owning one-as an automatic conservative is typical of the class warfare idiocy we face.


Come out with fully honest posts and all the response is almost lockstep with one who was being paid to slime your views virtually no desire to understand
one's reasoning at all.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: GraffikPleasure

MSNBC is not a far left enterprise, it is a capitalist enterprise. It is a capitalist media outlet that feeds the interests of liberals. Liberals are not far left.

Far left is anti-capitalists. This would be Communists, Socailists, Maoists, etc. The far left has in the core of its philosophy, the overthrow of all forms of capitalist systems. If you are looking at rich people who have gained their riches from within the capitalist system, they are not far left. Or do you understand this differently?



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

P.S. The post was extinction. Not extermination....



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 03:52 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

Rush commented last summer, I believe in August that per a U.K. report, Iran had finalized deals with both Airbus and Boeing to buy billions in aircraft to replace their aging fleet due to the embargo. Rush pointed out that the Iran agreement past with hardly a twitch from the GOP and pointed to this deal that greased the passing. He said, as his wont, "Follow the money trail".

But Rush is pro business, one would say...and that IS correct. But not pro business if it hurts the U.S. overall. In this instance ignoring obvious nuclear development objectives and removing full verification of sites and facilities.


WHAT NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT!

I keep asking for proof and sources and I get NONE. # all! Ziltch! Just want Mad netty says and hyperbol from Fox "news".

Hell Iran have been seen Bulldozeing old suspected nuclear sites and filling them in with concrete!

What do you Neocons want! You wont be happy till Tehran in smokeing ruin and US troops are all over Iran right?

Well Europe us going to be selling them planes its seems. Suck it up bitches


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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:52 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Bullcrap. If you want to place them in some innocent victim position, go right ahead.

The west was 'inventing' all this, from viruses in their nuclear development sites to assassinations of scientist via Israel...yep all invented hype. last time I checked, they didn't have to convince thee or me, just themselves....oh well.


They are getting smarter per this report/deal for planes. They've bought off major players in both the EU and the U.S.. Follow this traditional route and they may come out all right. Screw up? Especially with a new President, not to mention now messing with the Saudis....another bunch of nice guys and the evidence points no real change.


Where there's smoke, there's fire, brother. Simple as that.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 05:03 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker


They are getting smarter per this report/deal for planes.



Thats the problem no matter what they do you will just say "they are getting smarter".

Hell US troops could be crawling over Iran and find nothing and you would say the same.


originally posted by: nwtrucker

they didn't have to convince thee or me, just themselves.

Bull#!

They dam well do have to convince me!

Neocon Foriegn policy already pulled my country in to one war over fake WMDs so dammed well not going to trust the goverment EVER again unless they present to be pictures.
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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I can agree with that.. I just look at the paradigm with Clinton and Cruz in mind... There are definitely as you put it farther reaching opposites. Though I think most liberals do not like capitalism and are ignorant to how they make their money and how it all works. The right is usually just plainly ignorant haha.

I do feel though that this administration is anti capitalist.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I know Iran is your hobby horse and has been for years. (Watch your blood pressure.)


You know perfectly well that the U.S. gave the anthrax seeds to Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war. Also the chemical weapons, also back during that war. You know perfectly well Saddam used those WMDs on his own people somewhere in the tune of 250k-500k casualties.

Which has nothing to do with Iran which has nothing to do with the thread.


I will leave you know.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok

I know Iran is your hobby horse and has been for years. (Watch your blood pressure.)


You know perfectly well that the U.S. gave the anthrax seeds to Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war. Also the chemical weapons, also back during that war. You know perfectly well Saddam used those WMDs on his own people somewhere in the tune of 250k-500k casualties.

Which has nothing to do with Iran which has nothing to do with the thread.


I will leave you know.



And as you should well know those WMDs were destroyed or sealed up after the first golf war and by Bush II crusade there was none.

We have been through this song and dance before and you still dont learn.
I never denied Iraq had WMD just that they got rid of them after the first golf war and so Bush II and Blair lied.
Because of that I wont trust anything the government claims without evidence.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

Many Conservatives that are supporting Trump are also Fox viewers and their total disregard and blatant "Dump Trump" crap isn't going over well with us.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Speak for yourself. I'm very Conservative and I'm a Trump supporter, as are many many people that I know. As far as ratings between the GOP debate and the Trump rally, nobody picked up on airing it until the last minute. Surely you didn't expect a record breaker...did you? Not to mention, that was the second lowest rating on a debate with Trump gone.

I'm sure you mean well, but you don't speak for most Conservatives when you try to tell us we're not who we say we are since we support the only one with balls that doesn't back down from all the PC BS. In fact, you sound exactly like the establishment guys, the RINOs.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok

Walls don't work? based on what?
I suppose a layer of land mines might suffice...

As I have said before, the people who manufacture ladders are happy about this and state they are engineering taller and stronger ones that can be carried compactly. Land mines can be identified and avoided.


Not sure what part of the OP you didn't read, but FOX made their viewers mad by bashing the top GOP candidate, the silent majority speaks, yet again. FOX has the most viewers of all age groups. Try again.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: nwtrucker

Many Conservatives that are supporting Trump are also Fox viewers and their total disregard and blatant "Dump Trump" crap isn't going over well with us.


Why are you even watching that rot anyway?
Fox "news" can barely be called a news channel as its just a biased mouth piece that full of hyperbol and BS.



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