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Obama: It’s the media’s fault that people are worried about ISIS, you know

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posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: neo96

No, I'm talking about Iraq. Admit right now Bush signed the SOFA agreement to pull out troops. That has nothing to do with Obama.

If you wanna talk about ISIS and their creation then look no further than to the war with Iraq. Bush left the quagmire in the Middle East and no matter who took the mantle after him had this mess to deal with. I doubt Romney, Clinton, or even Ron Paul could have done any better. Thank god presidents can only serve 2 terms.

Predictable. Neo won't admit this and chooses to ignore this post.
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posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




The quote is out of context. he did say it is a legitimate news story, but how the media is covering it may play into the hands of ISIS wanting to amplify their power beyond what it is


Is that so ?

Sure doesn't have a problem with them pushing gun control,climate change,police brutality, and every thing issue from his agenda.

And YES.

The meme is ACCURATE.


PROVE the meme is accurate.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Swills

I AM saying.

Obama has been president for the last seven YEARS.

His foreign policy cluster foxtrot is DIRECTLY responsible for the rise of ISIS.,

The Paris Attacks.

The civil WAR in SYRIA.

YEMEN.

Somalia.

Libya.

And the TERRORIST ATTACK in San Bernardino.

ALL on his watch.

ALL because of his asinine appeasement 'policy'.

That has gotten hundreds of people killed in from Europe, The middle East. and on our own soil.


That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things. You might as well blame me for them. I had about as much to do with them.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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It's a prime example of cultivation theory


Cultivation theory examines the long-term effects of television. "The primary proposition of cultivation theory states that the more time people spend 'living' in the television world, the more likely they are to believe social reality portrayed on television."[1] Under this umbrella, perceptions of the world are heavily influenced by the images and ideological messages transmitted through popular television media.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

He's right.

I don't really watch American ttv news, but when Fox News used to give the level of terror warning everyday, that gave people an unrealistic overly dramatised version of reality and threat.
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posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Hes only defending them because:

He helped create them to fight his Proxy war against assad

Hes armed them

Hes protected them

Hes refused to arm Peshmerga who are fighting them tooth and nail

Hes refused to run effective bombing campaigns against known ISIS facilities

Hes refused to bomb confirmed ISIS convoys

Is there any doubt this man is protecting these animals?

There shouldnt be at this point, every move this man makes aids these people, down to his refusal to call them ISIS or Daesh

Actions speak louder than words, and this mans actions clearly point to the fact that hes using them to facilitate different objectives.

"we have got them contained" - Obama......Contained? Contained in what an area larger than the UK? Thats called a "country" Mr Obama, thats not contained and they continue to grow.

Sadly its taken Russia to actually make headway, and the only reason hes placating Russia with the bare minimal of help, is to keep the agenda end game hidden, and keep up "appearances"


He is defending ISIS? Where did you get that from?


ISIS is on the US foreign terrorist organizations list since 2004, and oh so convenient suddenly they are number one threat with billions of dollars in their pockets.
Understanding the pattern yet...

11 fu@###%in yers of cricket sounds and turning the blind eye.
He's as guilty as his predecessor.

They are US Gov mil complex asset, set off to fight and get rid of Asad.
Alas, Russians are in the way.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


The US President does NOT control all of these things. He cannot control what happens in the Middle East or in France of all places. He cannot figure out what people with guns will run out and shoot people here. We could have more gun regulation, but you don't want that. None of us want more intrusive surveillance.

The problems of the ME are not 100% the result of US policies. It is not possible. Other countries have their own policies towards the ME that are similar.

It is not our job to keep watch over France. That is just a ridiculous notion.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: zilebeliveunknown




They are US Gov mil complex asset, set off to fight and get rid of Asad. Alas, Russians are in the way.


They are a Saudi 'gov' ,GIP opec complex asset created as push back from alternative energy.

There's only are only two main exports from the middle east.

Oil and terrorists.

After the Paris Accords watch for INCREASED terrorist activity.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.
edit on 21-12-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?

I can think of no one he ran against that was 'eliminated' by the IRS.
edit on 21-12-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.
edit on 21-12-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.


Respectfully, you're just wrong.

Some people were attacked by six government agencies for trying to form a group.

These groups were not given a tax number.

I started a very large non-profit and without that Tax ID you can't do anything.

No Tax ID...No Insurance. You can't get 1000"s of people together uninsured.

So yeah they cheated. Was Obama directly responsible ?

That has not been proven...



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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Ok so WHAT does the teaparty have to do with Obama whining about the media?

Second verse same as the first verse with the third verse saying

Film at 11.



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.


Respectfully, you're just wrong.

Some people were attacked by six government agencies for trying to form a group.

These groups were not given a tax number.

I started a very large non-profit and without that Tax ID you can't do anything.

No Tax ID...No Insurance. You can't get 1000"s of people together uninsured.

So yeah they cheated. Was Obama directly responsible ?

That has not been proven...


What people?

You personally started a large non profit and could not get a tax Id number? Did they say why?



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.


Respectfully, you're just wrong.

Some people were attacked by six government agencies for trying to form a group.

These groups were not given a tax number.

I started a very large non-profit and without that Tax ID you can't do anything.

No Tax ID...No Insurance. You can't get 1000"s of people together uninsured.

So yeah they cheated. Was Obama directly responsible ?

That has not been proven...


The Tea Party


The resulting Senate subcommittee report ultimately found there had been “no bias”, though Republican committee members filed a dissenting report.[151] According to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, 18% of the conservative groups that had Tea Party or other related terms in their names flagged for extra scrutiny by the IRS had no evidence of political activity.[152] Michael Hiltzik, writing in the Los Angeles Times, stated that evidence put forth in the House report indicated the IRS had been struggling to apply complicated new rules to nonprofits that may have been involved in political activity, and had also flagged liberal-sounding groups.[153] Of all the groups flagged, the only one to lose tax exempt status was a group that trains Democratic women to run for office.[154]


It seems that only one non profit group lost tax exempt status and it is a democrat group.

So, respectfully, you are wrong.


It seems the Tea Party movement (a loose group of organizations, not an official political party) moved on to focus on local issues and had great differences in agenda among the groups.
edit on 21-12-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.


Respectfully, you're just wrong.

Some people were attacked by six government agencies for trying to form a group.

These groups were not given a tax number.

I started a very large non-profit and without that Tax ID you can't do anything.

No Tax ID...No Insurance. You can't get 1000"s of people together uninsured.

So yeah they cheated. Was Obama directly responsible ?

That has not been proven...


What people?

You personally started a large non profit and could not get a tax Id number? Did they say why?



My group wasn't Political...It is a non-profit for kids.

The Political groups, mostly conservative by their admission.

Were held for extra scrutiny. Meaning, sit on these groups until after the election.

Some groups were sent letters among other things asking what they prayed about.

It was actually brilliant if you support Obama...


edit on 21-12-2015 by whyamIhere because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 21 2015 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: reldra




That is a lot to blame on one person who is not in control of any of those things.


Obama is in control of those things.

After all that is the PRESIDENT's JOB.

They set POLICY.


No President ever has received the same free reign as Obama.

He could of done great things.

He is a total and complete failure.

Even cheating to win a second term.


What free reign more than other presidents? Be specific.

He certainly is not a complete failure, though mainstream conservative media would lead you to believe that is true.

Cheating to win a second term? Please elaborate.


He used the IRS to eliminate his opponents. They admitted it.

To me, that's cheating...


I still am not following you. He did run against people and won. How did he 'use' the IRS?


Lois Lerner, remember her ?

The completely shut down the Tea Party. That was the opposition.

They admitted it and apologized for it, after he was elected.


The IRS targeted many non profit groups of all kinds. The IRS gave documents to the FBI they weren't supposed to. The documents were returned. It was investigating non profit groups for giving political donations. The investigation was done the wrong way.

I think the Tea party still exists, not sure that is a good thing.

This did not effect the election. No one is 'eliminated'.

The republican party was the opposition. The Tea party is...I am not really sure what.


Respectfully, you're just wrong.

Some people were attacked by six government agencies for trying to form a group.

These groups were not given a tax number.

I started a very large non-profit and without that Tax ID you can't do anything.

No Tax ID...No Insurance. You can't get 1000"s of people together uninsured.

So yeah they cheated. Was Obama directly responsible ?

That has not been proven...


What people?

You personally started a large non profit and could not get a tax Id number? Did they say why?



My group wasn't Political...It is a non-profit for kids.

The Political groups, mostly conservative by their admission.

Were held for extra scrutiny. Meaning, sit on these groups until after the election.

Some groups were sent letters among other things asking what they prayed about.

It was actually brilliant if you support Obama...



I have posted the information. It was not mostly conservative groups. The IRS did not destroy the tea party. I have no idea why you didn't get a tax number. It appears they were looking more closely at non-profits in general, especially if you didn;t get a number.

And, again, only one group that already existed as non profit, a Democrat group, lost tax exempt status.
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