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Was Jar Jar Binks a Sith Lord and has Luke turned to the dark side?

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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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Title says it all. If you're a fan and haven't been aware of the Jar Jar theory then I highly recommend you watch this video. After watching it I now believe he is a Sith Lord and because of it I actually enjoy episodes 1-3 a lot more. Dare I say, I respect him now?



No sign of Luke yet in the coming movie even though we know he's apart of the new films. Why is that? Is it because J.J. Abrams is saving the best for last? Definitely, but why? What's he hiding?





posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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I made a topic on jar jar, people just said they only want to see him in the new movie if he dies a horrible death, well they are short signed if he dies he will return more powerful as a force ghost muahahah



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:21 PM
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posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Indigent

After learning about Jar Jar, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, I'd love to see him in the future films but only as a Sith Lord. If anyone is gonna do it, it's gonna be Abrams.

Will he die? That seems to be the path for all Sith Lords, even Jedi's, because everyone must die but the Force always lives on!



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Lysergic

So be it, at least I brought Luke with me.



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: Swills

I don't think it will work, it would be cool if there is a reveal, but now none of the characters in the new movie knows him, so if he is there he must be evil from the get go, and people seeing the movie would think wait what? Was he not all goofy and stuff before, when did he turn evil?

Darth jar jar would have been good at the end of attacks of the clones



posted on Dec, 1 2015 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Indigent

Theory is Jar Jar was supposed to follow that dark path but because fans hated him so much Lucas choose the more mundane and safe route. But if he had made Jar Jar a Sith I think everyone would have loved it because now we have a better reason to hate him than him just being a bumbling, annoying fool.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 12:32 AM
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A lightsaber tumbles out of space. It enters the atmosphere of a desert planet and plunges to the ground. This is the planet of Jakku. The lightsaber is retrieved by a mysterious hand. It finds its way to a village elder, codenamed the Vicar, played by Max Von Sydow. The Vicar contacts the Resistance (the good guys). An X-wing pilot, Poe Dameron–played by Oscar Isaac–arrives with his droid, BB-8, to collect the lightsaber from the Vicar. The exchange happens in his hut. Suddenly, the sound of ships are heard in the night. The First Order (the bad guys) are onto them! Poe Dameron places the lightsaber inside BB-8 and orders him to flee. Run, BB-8! Run!

The perspective now shifts to a stormtrooper on a transport ship, headed for the planet Jakku at night. This stormtrooper is Finn, played by John Boyega. He is shorter than the others. They land, the hatch opens, and they immediately start taking fire from the villagers. The stormtroopers proceed to burn the village to the ground. They also torch Poe Dameron’s X-wing. They are ordered to round up the remaining villagers and massacre them. The short stormtrooper Finn lets some villagers go out of compassion. Finn’s stormtrooper friend is killed in the assault, and he leaves a bloody handprint on Finn’s helmet.

A huge shuttle lands, and out of it emerges a evil dark lord in hooded robes and a helmet, wielding a red, cross-guarded lightsaber. This is Kylo Ren, played by Adam Driver. Kylo Ren proceeds to make mincemeat of some of the villagers who dare attack him. He confronts the Vicar about the lightsaber. Kylo essentially asks “WHAT have you DONE with that lightsaber?” Kylo Ren is unsatisfied with the conversation. He kills the Vicar in cold blood.

Poe Dameron (the X-wing pilot who is now without an X-wing) is captured by Kylo Ren’s stormtroopers. He is taken aboard a transport and flown back to a First Order Star Destroyer. Finn, the short stormtrooper, also flies back to the Star Destroyer. But he is disturbed by his experience on the ground. Upon arrival, Finn feels ill. He takes off his helmet, and vomits. A superior arrives and tells him that another superior wishes to see him. They are displeased with his conduct in the village. His sentimental weakness. This likely means death (or worse) for Finn.

The perspective now shifts to a young woman on the desert planet of Jakku. This is Rey (who may also be called Kira) played by Daisy Ridley. She flies her speeder across the desert, and approaches a great ruin in the desert: a crashed Star Destroyer from a titanic battle between the Empire and the Rebellion, 30 years earlier. Rey enters the Destroyer, and proceeds to explore it, expertly hopping over huge chasms–some of which house the remains of old TIE fighters. She is a scavenger, on a planet that was once uninhabited, but is now populated by opportunists scavenging the wreckage of war. She also seems to be something of a skilled gymnast, as she hops from precipice to precipice in the Star Destroyer’s great husk. She scavenges a bit, and then decides to return home. In a rather evocative shot, she flies her speeder into a ONE SUN sunset.

We now cut back to the First Order Star Destroyer, hovering above the planet. The villain Kylo Ren is torturing Poe Dameron. Ren is confident he will get the information he needs. He emerges from the interrogation knowing that the lightsaber is now carried by a droid, BB-8. Kylo Ren delivers this information to his superior, codenamed “The General,” who is played by Domhnall Gleeson.

The stormtrooper Finn decides to flee. But he can’t fly. He needs a pilot. He sees Poe Dameron being escorted to the brig, and decides to act. He breaks Poe free. They steal a TIE fighter from the hangar bay, and stormtroopers try to stop them. The TIE lifts away from its moorings, firing at troopers as it makes its way out and into space. TIE fighters follow, screaming behind them. After a short chase, Finn and Poe are shot down. Poe is unconscious at the controls. But before they crash, Finn manages to eject himself from craft. He wakes up in the sand, back on Jakku. He looks around in a panic, and sees the crashed TIE fighter not so far away. He tries to get into it, but can’t. Finn sheds his stormtrooper armor and puts on a jacket that seemingly belongs to Poe Dameron. It’s not clear what happened to Poe. Finn, now disguised as a Resistance pilot, heads away from the wreckage. A speeder zooms by him, blasting sand into his face. Finn follows it, in the hope that it will lead him to the nearest settlement on this barren planet.

Kylo Ren and the General watch Finn’s hologram aboard the Star Destroyer. The General suggests to a Chrome Stormtrooper named Captain Phasma (played by Gwendoline Christie) that she focus on hunting down the droid and retrieving the lightsaber. Forget Finn, who is useless anyway. The lightsaber is the important objective.

The perspective shifts again to the female scavenger, Rey. She eats alone, in a makeshift dwelling in the belly of an old AT-AT walker, living among the bones of the old Empire. She hears a commotion outside, and finds that a droid is in some trouble. She helps the droid, who turns out to be BB-8. After doing so, she decides to sell BB-8 at the nearest salvage station, along with the rest of her loot. After some haggling, she is not able to part with the droid. She decides to keep it.

Later on the street, Rey is confronted by ruffians. Finn, emerging from his trek through the desert, enters the settlement. He quickly sees that Rey is trouble. Being the compassionate type, he intervenes to help her. She doesn’t need his help, of course, and doesn’t trust Finn’s intentions. She also doesn’t believe that he is a Resistance pilot. Rey and Finn make a run for it, with BB-8 in tow. They are pursued by ruffians again, who are perhaps fulfilling a bounty for the First Order. TIE fighters scream overhead, and begin firing laser blasts at them. They frantically look for a ship, and ultimately choose one that’s sitting there with its door open. It’s the Millennium Falcon.

Finn and Rey board the Falcon, and get it off the ground. Rey flies expertly, while Finn settles in at the guns. A few TIEs are in pursuit. Rey shouts at Finn to fire back at them! Rey flies the Falcon back towards a crashed Super Star Destroyer. In order to throw the TIEs off her back, she flies INTO the Destroyer from its rear rocket boosters, into the belly of a beast. She and the TIEs slalom through the crashed Destroyer. But Rey knows these ruins, and she leaves the TIEs behind. The Falcon jets off into space, and loses its pursuers, probably by jumping to hyperspace.

We now cut to Kylo Ren, alone in his “padded room” aboard the orbiting Star Destroyer. He has received the news of the failed retrieval of the lightsaber. He speaks to himself. Rather, he speaks to the burned and twisted husk of a helmet: the helmet of Darth Vader.

We return to Rey and Finn on the Millennium Falcon. Either via tractor beam or their own choice, they are swallowed up by a Giant Freighter in space. Into the belly of another beast. The ship lands in a cavernous hangar bay. They open the door, and there at the bottom of the ramp is Han Solo and Chewbacca! Han orders the kids off his ship. They refuse. Han and Chewie enter the ship and confront Finn and Rey. BB-8 hides in the back. Suddenly, an alert pops up in hologram.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 02:31 AM
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a reply to: Swills

during the battle of naboo do we see other gungans jumping 20 ft in the air?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:50 AM
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Am I the only one with a bad feeling about Disney handling starwars?


I tried reading the starwars book aftermath.......O god it was awful. Even the worst of the old EU was better than that POS, the author should be raped to death by Jar Jar by that crime against the English language. O god it was bad. The writing was worse than my grammar and spelling on my worse days!

If disney let that crap through I fear for the film.
edit on 2-12-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Can't be worse than Lucas



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: crazyewok

Can't be worse than Lucas


Read the new starwars book aftermath that disney released......yes it can be worse....much much much worse.....



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:59 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Lucas made a good movie, followed by a better movie directed by someone else, followed by ewoks, followed by jar jar, followed by 3 guys talking in corridors for hours, ending with darth vader in a very awkward NOOOOOOO

The bar was left pretty low by Lucas



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 05:27 AM
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originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: crazyewok

Lucas made a good movie, followed by a better movie directed by someone else, followed by ewoks, followed by jar jar, followed by 3 guys talking in corridors for hours, ending with darth vader in a very awkward NOOOOOOO

The bar was left pretty low by Lucas


It got lowered by that travesty of a book. Trust me.

The writing style reads like William shatter on meth.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: Swills

Hm.m.m.m....Compelling argument and your premise would make sense so why diidn't Lucas do it? You say that he was under pressure not to do it but I'm not sure that's the case.

I agree that it would've made the prequel series so much better!



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: WP4YT

How do you know so much about the movie? Did you work on it?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 08:02 AM
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Has Luke turned to the Dark Side? Well the apple don't fall far from the tree. That's why Hamill ain't been shown in the trailers, only that mysterious robotic hand.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
Am I the only one with a bad feeling about Disney handling starwars?


My son is with you on that. I have good hopes for it, though...but hopes don't always a reality make.




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