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Turkey shot down Russian Jet: reportedly by two F16's

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posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: bjarneorn

LOL!!

Here is another proverb that fits well into NATO with Turki relationship

"Mistress expects and wants more from a man than his real wife".

Turkey is mistress at best to NATO and it will soon find out.




posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Belgianbloke

Turkey has a right to defend its airspace, Obama says


Just what we need, this jackass to pour some oil on the fire.


Not even a word of it being a tragedy etc.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: 0bserver1


Putin has made a wise decision , to hit where it hurts the most ,and thats economically . . No travel and to Turkey and more.


Then Turkey closes the Bosporus and Putin went to the trouble of invading Crimea for nothing.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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Just so we can remember:

Here are the alleged paths of the two Russian jets:



Here is the letter that was sent to the UN:




posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: crazyewok

Your shilling for assad... just as bad as isis.


Is that the beast you can do? Really?

God man a world war is not something to take lightly which you are doing!



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: crazyewok

Putin has made a wise decision , to hit where it hurts the most ,and thats economically . . No travel and to Turkey and more..



I don't think that matters much ... this isn't about economics, it's about the airspace over Syria, and the Russian ability to control it or not.

Look at it this way, Russia fights ISIS makes big headway ... everybody loves Su35, everybody wants them. Russia gets big deals with China, they want a lot of them.

Turkey shoot ... one Russian plane down, maybe two ... two helicpoters destroyed.

Uh ho ... hmmm, maybe Iran and all the others are gonna think "hmmm, maybe I should buy an F-16 instead".

Let's see if Putin can play this game of "chicken" or not.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: bjarneorn

originally posted by: 23432
As for your desire to see millions of human beings killed by nukes ; well , do you know how batsh1t crazy do you sound ?
Are there moments in your life where you utter to yourself " Maaan I AM really crazy " ?


Of course I am ... so what?



Here is a Circassian Proverb to wish you well ; " Bear will always steal honey " .


Here is another old proverb for you ... "When the master isn't home, the rats play on the dinner table".




Seek some help , the right side of sanity is far better then the side you are on .

Proverbial attachment : " To kill the Dragon , you must fight the Dragon " .


edit on 24-11-2015 by 23432 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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Ok - so they barely violated Turkey airspace and where just operating near the Turkish border.

If this is true, than Turkey is the one violating Syrian airspace considering that they had to go into Syrian airspace in order to take down the Flankers.

If I were Putin, I would be really pissed. This is more than agression by Turkey - it's almost a war declaration to Russia.

WTF is wrong with the Turks. Is ISIS now in full control in Turkey?

Europe is so done!

WW3 here we come.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

I see the two are going to down playing each other now. .



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

On the contrary... A war will not happen if russia stays out of Turkish airspace - plain and simple.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: flyandi

Turkish jets remained in turkish airspace.

Russian jets violated turkish airspace.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: crazyewok

Your shilling for assad... just as bad as isis.


Is that the beast you can do? Really?

God man a world war is not something to take lightly which you are doing!



Right .

That's why Turks asked NATO and got the green light to down the plane .

NATO's SOVERIGNTY is up for grabs , the NATO AUTHORITY is being challenged and the answer is given .

We're just waiting for some people to get with the facts .



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: crazyewok

Your shilling for assad... just as bad as isis.


Is that the beast you can do? Really?

God man a world war is not something to take lightly which you are doing!



Right .

That's why Turks asked NATO and got the green light to down the plane .

NATO's SOVERIGNTY is up for grabs , the NATO AUTHORITY is being challenged and the answer is given .

We're just waiting for some people to get with the facts .


Turkey should clean it #ing house out and stop the support of terrorists!

I dont want the UK to shed one drop of blood NATO or not over a country thats backing terrorists!



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: crazyewok

On the contrary... A war will not happen if russia stays out of Turkish airspace - plain and simple.


But it's Turkey which violated Syrian Airspace?

The two SU's where just operating NEAR the border. That's hardly a violation of airspace.

I am neither pro-russia nor pro-turkey but Turkey is playing with more than a burning flame that will affect all of us. Considering that they supporting ISIS in every way .. why would we put any trust into Turkey over Russia?



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: flyandi

Turkish jets remained in turkish airspace.

Russian jets violated turkish airspace.


Not true, read the updated news.

US also confirmed that they were operating half a mile from the Turkey airspace. There is no indication that they ever flew into Turkey.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: 23432

Seek some help , the right side of sanity is far better then the side you are on .


Really?

What a deluded individual ... you think that creating something like ISIS is good ... not to mention the Turkey route for ISIS and other terrorist cells to infiltrate Europe?

No thank you ... if you ever rule the world, I will absolutely support the side that will turn this planet into a celestial glass ball.



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: bjarneorn

LOL!!

Here is another proverb that fits well into NATO with Turki relationship

"Mistress expects and wants more from a man than his real wife".

Turkey is mistress at best to NATO and it will soon find out.


Turks secured the south east flank of NATO over 50 years .

If NATO doesn't react with downing the Russian plane then what's next ? Belarus ? Estonia ? Cuba ?



Say bye bye to sucking the blood of Central Asians and Caucasians .

Look French will make a deal , go ahead Poland - Germany - Rome awaits .




posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

A lot of turkeys are gonna be falling from the sky .. medium rare .. just in time for thanks giving ..



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: flyandi

Yup russia violated turkish airspace.

We are still waiting on Russian "proof" they didnt violate turkish airspace.
edit on 24-11-2015 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Power_Semi
There was no need to shoot it down even if it was in their airspace - what harm was it doing?



An armed jet fighter flies into your airspace with no advance notice and doesn't respond to multiple warnings - go on, think about it, how do you know what its intention is - sheeesh, if an armed Chinese jet flew over American airspace with no notice and did not respond to warnings and American forces did not neutralise the potential threat almost everyone on ATS would say what the hell was Obama thinking? Why do you think different standards apply over the airspace of a different country?



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