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a reply to: shaneslaughta

Why do you space your coils like that? Not knocking it, just wondering your reasoning.

a reply to: kingofyo1

Because i like to lead not follow

Honestly though, i just feel i get a better vape running lower ohms with a gappy coil. Seems like the wick does not get charred and gunked as fast, and it spreads the heat across more wicking material. The more surface area you can heat with the coil the better the flavor. At least in my experiences.

That is the great thing about vaping, you can build to suit YOU.

Also, i cant find my micro torch so the coils don't stay together

I am always open to tips and suggestions and others experiences.

originally posted by: shaneslaughta
a reply to: kingofyo1

Because i like to lead not follow

Honestly though, i just feel i get a better vape running lower ohms with a gappy coil. Seems like the wick does not get charred and gunked as fast, and it spreads the heat across more wicking material. The more surface area you can heat with the coil the better the flavor. At least in my experiences.

That is the great thing about vaping, you can build to suit YOU.

Also, i cant find my micro torch so the coils don't stay together

I am always open to tips and suggestions and others experiences.

This is a very good point! Ive tried spacing when I first built my own coils, but couldnt ever manage to not get hot spots lol! I never use a torch anymore, and what I do is heat the coil to orange/red without wick and then use my needle nose to hold coil together until all heat has dissipated. This allows the kanthal to release its memory and stay together. pretty much same thing as torching it while holding the coil together. Another thing you may want to try is using a drill to twist the wire in a single strand. This allows for an easier time working with lower gauge thicker wire, like 22 ga. makes it easier to form around a rod or bit. On the higher stuff, 26+, you'd use the drill to get rid of the extra springiness. On another note, I just went to a local vape shop and tried literally 20 different flavors from multiple different makers to find a new juice and nothing seemed to hit my pallette quite right. Guess i'm sticking with my strawberry cheesecake at the moment!

I find it hilarious; all the people invalidating the benefits vaping as a smoking cessation because they are too stubborn to give up cigarettes. Couldn't even read past the first page. I had to do a 20 page paper on e-cigarettes for Uni...

If you really think that Nicotine is super harmful in small doses then you're smokin' something else. Nicotine is on par with Caffeine as far as harm. Is it addictive? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's super harmful.

but it's the -burning- of tobacco leaves and ~4,000 chemicals that's the real problem with cigarettes. It has nothing to do with Nicotine other than Nicotine is the chemical that gives you the desired effect and that keeps you coming back to deposit that **** in your lungs. Wisen up and try vaping... from someone who quit for 4 years cold turkey and picked up vaping, they are worlds apart.

Also, cig-a-likes (Blu, or anything resembling cigarette form-factor) is a WASTE OF MONEY. Invest in a real mod/atomizer and quality liquid and you'll understand.

a reply to: kingofyo1

I use locking pliers like the kind for yanking fishing hooks out, and a pencil on the other end of the wire. I have yet to try the drill method, its definitely faster for sure.

Ohh good idea, i dunno how i didn't think of heating the coil with the mod. (Facepalm)
Thanks for the tip

I like the strawberry cheesecake and banana cheesecake flavors but now days i am getting into the cereals myself.

a reply to: shaneslaughta

You don't need a torch. Fire your coils briefly a couple of time after you'redone building until they glow and pinch them with needle nose and hold them until they cool.

a reply to: pfishy

Buy ceramic tweezers it's easier.

I have been vaping for about a month now I have a miniprotank 3 with some kinda double coil thingy with a clean smoke mvp battery pack.

I dunno if it is the juice or voltage which I have played with and with the watts etc, but it seems to hurt my throat when I vape.

I am headed to the vape shop later today any suggestions guys??

I have tried a few flavors and they all seem to do the same hurt my throat...

a reply to: Bicent76

You may have a PG allergy or the nicotine level might be too high. See if you can get juice with more (max) VG it should be smoother.

a reply to: Domo1

i will try that thank you.

a reply to: Bicent76

i live in the sticks, and have terrible selection locally. I bought the first couple of bottles of juice locally, to try it out. Gave me headaches, made me feel ill, it was harsh.

So i dropped from 24mg to 12mg (actually, bought some 3mg to mix with my 24mg until i used it all). Then started buying my stuff online. Fraction of the cost, much better quality. Only been at it a couple of weeks, but found out right off the bat that 24 mg nicotine is way too much, and bad juice ruins the experience.

Another thing i learned is that the Kanger Protank3 leaks like a sieve. Its poorly designed/engineered, with the coil protruding through the bottom. When the juice heats it becomes superfluid, and leaks through threads and microgaps. Got tired of cleaning the battery contact off and started buying Aspire Nautilus or Nautilus Mini tanks instead. I have like 5 or 6 Kanger Protank3's that Ill use as the starter tanks for a "vape it forward" type deal. But they sit unused.

a reply to: Bicent76

VG is where its at, pg is too harsh. Also a consideration maybe, a different tank. Something with higher airflow will help significantly.

If you can, test a few different tanks in the shop and see what one gives you the hit your after.

originally posted by: Bicent76
I have been vaping for about a month now I have a miniprotank 3 with some kinda double coil thingy with a clean smoke mvp battery pack.

I dunno if it is the juice or voltage which I have played with and with the watts etc, but it seems to hurt my throat when I vape.

I am headed to the vape shop later today any suggestions guys??

I have tried a few flavors and they all seem to do the same hurt my throat...

Well, one thing that it could be, as well, is the fact that you need to get more "used" to the vaping, as well as the possibility that you have a slight allergy to the PG. It might be, as wlel, that the PG you have in your juice is a little high for you.


But, as far as the "getting used to it" is concerned, what I mean is, with cigarettes, there's a numbing factor to them. Some of the additives in analog cigarettes are there to numb the mouth and throat, so that you do not notice the harshness.

E-Juice doesn't have that kind of additive in it, so you're getting the full effect of a hot vapor entering into your system,

That can take a while to get used to, even a couple of months.

Just something not man y people discuss when they talk about the throat hurt when people start vaping.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

ok I will try that also. Just started out so I want to stick with the product I have now, I just bought it. I will try a lower nic mg content and see what happens..

a reply to: Bicent76

I know how you feel but I would really consider getting at least a new tank. Remember that you're going to save far more in a month than the cost of a decent tank if vaping is enjoyable. The initial investment pays for itself quickly and the health benefits alone are worth the $.

I get irritated when shops sell people this kind of set up because it's either going to discourage someone entirely or the person will be back in a week or two to upgrade. I tried a pen and clearomizer a few years back and hated the experience so much that I swore off vaping for a long time. I didn't know anything about it so I thought that was the best it got.

If you don't want to spend too much and want a pen style I'd really recommend the eGo One starter kit. I have the eGo One mini for times when one of my normal mods are too big, and with a .5 ohm coil actually enjoy it quite a bit (get something bigger for battery/juice life). It's about $45, but for me that was less than a week of smoking a pack a day. The airflow control works really well and you can adjust it for a mouth to lung or just straight lung hit.

What juice are you using? If you're using stuff that comes in a small plastic bottle it's probably not great and might be the issue. I didn't think of that until our large Texas ape mentioned that. If it doesn't come in a glass bottle with a dropper it's probably very low quality. Decent juice at a vape shop should run you at least $15 for 30 ml. You can find it much cheaper online.

What do you want out of a set up? What specific cigarette do you smoke and how many times a day? Do you want something that is really easy to carry around or do you want the battery to last a long time? Are you the kind of person that's going to want to try different things and tinker, or do you just want an easy replacement for cigarettes? If it's the latter, eGo One starter kit and try the different coils. If you're like me and enjoy being able to try everything, I would invest in a Pioneer4you D2 and Subtank Mini, 2 18650 batteries (LG, Samsung or Sony) and a charger.

If you ask just about anyone thats switched, they will say that the cheaper set ups and clearomizers just don't cut it. It's going to cost a bit more to upgrade initially, but most don't get the right feel from the cheaper stuff. I keep saying it, but it will pay for itself quickly.

Pardon the wall of text, I just remember when I started, and feeling intimidated by the crazy amount of choices out there, and I like being able to get someone going in the right direction so they can be healthier and save money. $50-$100 is a small price to pay to save a ton of money, feel better, not have a cough, smell better, lower your blood pressure (mine went down a lot), reduce the need for nicotine (I can go far longer between vaping than I could with cigs), help you easily ween off nicotine, cut out the teeth and finger stains, inhale something that actually tastes good, some people have been able to switch from "smoker" on their insurance and save money that way too, you can do it inside without your place smelling like crap and staining the walls, and not reeking of smoke may boost your confidence quite a bit (I hated that I smelled like a cigarette smoker in public and don't feel self conscious about my breath when smooching my girlfriend).

a reply to: Bicent76

The Kanger tanks will work, and will get you through...just make sure you have some paper towels and qtips handy for periodic cleaning. I have to clean my kanger protank3's twice a day when i use them, or they gurgle and don't hit right.

and when you are ready to replace/get more, just get a tank that has a solid construction. Im serious about the Nautilus. You can get it for under $30 and its the tank to have for easy use.

a reply to: shaneslaughta

ok I figured it out guys, I really appreciate the help. I had 100 percent VG with 18 mg nic methal tobacco etc flavor. Seems the guy when I bought it just gave me this juice after I told him I was quitting smoking and he determined after I told him I smoked a pack a day I needed this crap juice. Talked to a different guy tried some juice better mix smoother taste etc. at 9mg of nic.

Vaping some lion's blood now nice smooth taste..

got a free tip outta the deal also for my vaper thingamabob also


Thanks for the help.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I talked to the guy about the nautilus, and he said they have bad reviews and it is consumer preferance etc. Obviously he does not pedal that brand. I will try it out thou bro I think I am liking this hobby. much healthier, it reminds me a little of pipe smoking..

a reply to: Bicent76

I had a friend give me a nautilus. Right before that, i had asked a couple of folks about the nautilus mini, and they went on and on about how it was their 'go to" tank. I got the gifted nautilus, and loved it. Opened it all the way up, set it to about 8.5 w, and use it to lung hit. I get a great cloud, full flavor...

So my wife wanted one. I got her the nautilus mini. Another "out of the park" for both of us.

Im sure it is personal preference. The guys in this thread that do the RDA and build their own gear...they probably would want something far different. But if you are a user more than a hobbyist, the simple fact that the nautilus just works every time...no leaks, only gurgles if you don't clean in between tank fills (a quick qtip up the pipe, basically)...and the adjustable airflow.

Regardless...im glad you found your groove. Im only a couple of weeks in and really hve found an improvement in my life.

a reply to: Domo1

I will upgrade the tank, to what the furry texan, is suggesting, I want to vape for a bit with my initial investment to make sure it is what I want. I know I have a decent battery pack I can ohm up to 11.0 and my volt limit is up to 5.0 it is a good start. I will work my way up, I will prob. try the nautilus after I check some reviews on it as well to make sure my investment is sound, it seems right now allot of people are jumping into vaping and just trusting what the shop keeper is saying so I need to research a bit more, the shop keep kinda made a double take when I mentioned the nautilus tonight and kinda did the oh shucks thing when I asked about it and he did not have one. etc.

I will upload some pics of my setup when I get my phone in the mail and maybe you guys can give me some addition pointers on good vape setups. I dunno if we are aloud but maybe post a link or PM me a link for where I can order something good, I will at least give it a try as long as it is not to expensive guys..

Again thanks for the support and advice, you guys helped me tonight...