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Russian president Vladimir Putin has decreed that all Russian casualties “in peacetime” be a state secret. In addition to criminal charges arising from divulging state secrets, families risk losing pensions and lump-sum payments if they reveal that their sons were killed in Ukraine. Mothers of soldiers’ associations have been branded “foreign agents” for collecting data on Russian casualties. Dissident Boris Nemtsov was murdered shortly before completing his study of Russian casualties in Ukraine. Russian civil rights organizations, working against the fog of official resistance, could confirm only several hundred battlefield deaths.
Business Life (Delovaya Zhizn) reports on markets, finance, entrepreneurship, finance, and leisure, scarcely an outlet for sensational information. Its innocuously entitled “Increases in Pay for Military in 2015,” however, reveals what appear to be official figures on the number of Russian soldiers killed or made invalids “in eastern Ukraine.” Russian censors quickly removed the offending material but not before it had been webcached by the Ukrainian journal Novy Region (New Region). Here is the “top secret” material the censors removed (my translation):
“Compensation of military personnel taking part in military actions in Ukraine in 2014-2015.” In addition, the Russian government, in a decision about the monetary compensation of military personnel taking part in military action in eastern Ukraine, approved compensation for families of military personnel who were killed taking part in military action in Ukraine of three million rubles (about $50,000). For those who have become invalids during military action, the compensation is one and a half million rubles (about $25,000). A payment of 1,800 rubles is envisioned for contract “fighters” for every day of their presence in the conflict zone. In all, as of February 1, 2015, monetary compensation had been paid to more than 2,000 families of fallen soldiers and to 3,200 military personnel suffering heavy wounds and recognized as invalids (my italics).”
Sovietologists found many secrets of the USSR by digging into the Soviet press and technical and financial trade journals. That fallen and invalided military personnel are compensated must be reflected somewhere in budgets. As reported in Delovaya zhizn, compensation payments for those killed and invalided in Ukraine came to almost twenty million dollars, not a large share of the approximately $50 billion defense budget but large enough to appear in an appropriate budget subcategory.
originally posted by: Xeven
That indicates they not very well trained. That is a lot of casualties for such a small conflict.
If Russia has been willing to commit its top line soldiers into the battle then it should have provided them with several times of advantages over the adversary. One advantage would have been the air power in the form of old Mig-21s, 23s etc.
originally posted by: victor7
If these figures are true, then they further confirm that Russian ways of fighting have little consideration for common foot soldier or soldiers in general.
If Russia has been willing to commit its top line soldiers into the battle then it should have provided them with several times of advantages over the adversary. One advantage would have been the air power in the form of old Mig-21s, 23s etc. These would have negated the use of "mad dash" full frontal attacks by the infantry which results in lots of causalities.
Elite or even semi-elite soldiers do not come cheap in terms of training costs.
The sad part is the Russian soldiers who are the ones getting screwed over in all of this. Tossed unprepared into a war they have no interest in and then screwed over if the are hurt or killed. It is just wrong.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: victor7
If Russia has been willing to commit its top line soldiers into the battle then it should have provided them with several times of advantages over the adversary. One advantage would have been the air power in the form of old Mig-21s, 23s etc.
Hard to do something like that when you are denying backing, and training the separatists.
originally posted by: TheBlacklist
So how did this business site get this, what is supposed to be, secret information? What are their sources?