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So how did this business site get this, what is supposed to be, secret information? What are their sources?
It does seem to be not much more than a blog without staff and without any source.
For what I can say it seems plausible and I'm pretty sure we're not talking about anything else than propaganda bandwagon. After all I found more sources from this blogger than for the alleged "respectable" financial website.
I am rather surprised that people on top mainstream media are so quick to buy an article of much more than dubious background, it's a terrible job, they could surely do better.
You should be ashamed of your research method and critical thinking.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Mastronaut
Which one?
Forbes?
or Business life?
SO at live journal anyone can write whatever they want and that is your proof the numbers are faked. Just out of curiosity when did social media become the truth in the world?
And your source for the debunking isn't any better.
SO because it doesn't fit your thinking that means someone should be ashamed of their research method and critical thinking...interesting.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Mastronaut
The title is based on the title the media outlet used. We are suppose to use the article title so if you have issues take it up with the media outlet in question as well as the management for ATS.
Secondly its ok If you think the articles are without merit. May I respectfully suggest instead of constantly claiming the info is misleading / false / what have you that you may want to post sources that dispute the claims being made.
Its not enough to claim the sources are wrong... Please support the argument.
There is plenty of evidence that supports the claims being made, including Russian families who have been threatened to not talk when they were informed their family members were dead. Had the USSR not done the same thing, lie about its involvement and body count, in Afghanistan you might have a valid argument. However that fact supports the claims being made today.
The active duty Russian soldiers who have been captured in Ukraine supports the claims.
The Russian weapons and military supplies that have been sent to E. Ukraine / Crimea by Russia supports the claims.
The use of non-insignia Russian soldiers to invade / illegally occupy Crimea support the claims.
Could the numbers in the article be off? Absolutely.
Simply repeating over and over the numbers are false does not make it true. Post some sources to counter it.
Moscow (AFP) - A former leader of pro-Russian separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine on Thursday announced he was launching a support network for Russian volunteers who fought in the conflict and the families of those killed.
and the west ? How many Russian army bases are around the USA ? Another false claim against Putin. Still u sleep with your eyes open.
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: MrSpad
Eastern minds spend troops lives in a rediculous fashion,combat wise.
originally posted by: Obi88
and the west ? How many Russian army bases are around the USA ? Another false claim against Putin. Still u sleep with your eyes open.
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: MrSpad
Eastern minds spend troops lives in a rediculous fashion,combat wise.
Look at facts, not about what people say.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
Let's look at the facts shall we...
1) Russia is actively sending money and military troops and weapons to Ukraine.
2) Active Russian troops are dying in Ukraine.
3) Russia passed a law that troop deaths during peace time are a state secret.
4) Russia denies being involved in Ukraine, although troop deaths prove otherwise.
5) Putin denies being in Ukraine...although we have seen and he has admitted to invading Ukraine to annex part of it (Crimea).
Do you still want to look at the facts?
originally posted by: Mastronaut
1) Russia is actively sending money and military troops and weapons to Ukraine.
So is the US, but that doesn't bother you
originally posted by: Mastronaut
2) Active Russian troops are dying in Ukraine.
You can say that when the Kremlin admits it, until then it's Russians volunteers
3) Russia passed a law that troop deaths during peace time are a state secret.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
Volunteers aren't Russia's official troops, so false
originally posted by: Mastronaut
Crimea voted to be annexed, it was not annexed by invasion.
Do you still want to look at the facts?
So is the US, but that doesn't bother you
You can say that when the Kremlin admits it, until then it's Russians volunteers
Volunteers aren't Russia's official troops, so false
Crimea voted to be annexed, it was not annexed by invasion.
You seems to want to look at facts, but then proceed to dismiss the same arguments if they are directed at the USA.
- the USA supported a coup from a neo-nazi group to overthrow the old "techincally" elected president
- the USA annexed every country they invaded by means of unsurmountable IMF debt, putting puppet governments
- the USA concealed the number of casualties of every military intervention
- NATO troops invade countries with the excuse that the regimes kill their own people
- False flags are used to scare the american people to support intervention in countries that pose no threats to them
- No country can decide what currency they can use to trade oil nor they can tie their currency to gold or silver without being destabilized and then raped of their wealth and resources
We can go on and on for days if what you say are facts. But they aren't.
There is a reason that most of the world think the USA is the biggest threat to world peace, including its own citizens.
Facts are based on documents not on propaganda, you can hate whoever you want and think whatever you want and root for whoever you want, but it doesn't make heresay, opinions and anectodal evidence facts until DOCUMENTED beyon doubt.