Wal-Mart to Stop Selling AR-15s and Similar Weapons

After 11 pages and a couple hundred posts, and multiple face-palms, I had to make sure I hadn't inadvertently entered the HuffPo reading another misinformed article on guns. Calling MSR "automatics", poster wanting to change the wording of the 2nd, and(again smh) the belief that firearm ownership is somehow tied to membership in a militia. I chuckled at the description of that scary black rifle that goes pew-pew-pew(only with each pull of the trigger), and if Wal-Mart elects not to sell ARs, the majority of gun-owning posters didn't really seem to care.

I still don't understand the OP's wish for banning such firearms, currently one of the most popular in this country. Aside from cosmetic features, the it differs little in functionality from other center-fire rifles. What really sets the AR apart from others is the many calibers this platform can be built to fire, and the interchangeability of parts between ARs. But it's still black and scary I guess.

I wouldn't rely on an AR for home defense, as over-travel is a possibility. However, who am I to tell other law-biding gun owners what they may and may not use to defend themselves and family, as police response can be in the tens of minutes.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Friend of mine has a rifle in .300 Blackout. Haven't had the opportunity to try it yet...she's still not sharing it.

Selfish, imho...

a reply to: nwtrucker

I lost count...I know I told you.

Sorry.

a reply to: SPECULUM

So, you are going to drill out a plug you cant see from under whatever type of finish their supplier uses?

yes i will if i see it and can't get any one to tell me whats there or what it's used for, i like to know what all parts do and are for on any thing i own and work on.and if your talking about where the buffer spring tube goes into the lower, i know a couple of gunsmiths i'll just take it to them and have it done if they can't tell me. and the can refinish it for me, with a couple of different types of applications.it's not like it's gonna been seen there anyway. plus i have a couple of guns that i've changed and chopped the stocks on, and applied finishes to. my favorite is a sks paratrooper that i put a fiber force stock on and cut down the butt. and applied a camo finish from butt to flash suppressor that my buddies uses.
and besides to place one there it would have to be so small that it would be almost useless. the range would be almost like right on top of you. even if you drill it before it is threaded you still have to put the plug in and thread it, then when the plug is removesd the the thread will still work.

and if you think bushmaster or what ever mfg that walmarts sells is going to retool or add a step in manufacturing and place a rfid chip in it and not cause the price to go up. i know walmarts has pull with some manufacturers, that there is just crazy.

I like the 6.5 Grendel,very good long range.

a reply to: SPECULUM

just for grins and giggles, look here.


if you notice there are only three places where i think you talking about it could go.(see red arrow)
you couldn't put it on the bottom because of the detent pin and spring for the rear receiver pin. so that would leave the sides and the top. you can't put it on the top because of the detent spring and pin for the buffer.

in my opinion there is not enough meat on the sides to even attempt to drill into with out weakening it, let alone place a chip that can be read from any distance.

here is some info on rfid's

From how far away can a typical RFID tag be read? The distance from which a tag can be read is called its read range. Read range depends on a number of factors, including the frequency of the radio waves uses for tag-reader communication, the size of the tag antenna, the power output of the reader, and whether the tags have a battery to broadcast a signal or gather energy from a reader and merely reflect a weak signal back to the reader. Battery-powered tags typically have a read range of 300 feet (100 meters). These are the kinds of tags used in toll collection systems. High-frequency tags, which are often used in smart cards, have a read range of three feet or less. UHF tags-the kind used on pallets and cases of goods in the supply chain-have a read range of 20 to 30 feet under ideal conditions. If the tags are attached to products with water or metal, the read range can be significantly less. If the size of the UHF antenna is reduced, that will also dramatically reduce the read range. Increasing the power output could increase the range, but most governments restrict the output of readers so that they don't interfere with other RF devices, such as cordless phones.
RFID Journal

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: reldra

If walmart wishes to suspend AR-15 sells then so be it, they are their own establishment and I believe they should be able to sell or not sell any item they want,and to sell to anybody they wish or do not wish to sell to.

With that being said, AR-15s are the civilian version of the M-4 ,it's semi automatic,does not contain three round burst nor is it automatic, of course you could modify the trigger assembly and make an automatic weapon. Even so,that would be foolish because it would just empty your magazine even when you let go of the trigger. Or also known as the spray and pray method.

Having said that, in terms of mass shootings and when you have the availability of any weapon, it will result in the same outcome. A 9mm properly aimed can kill just as many just as fast. Knifes are more personal, but someone bent on hurting other people will find a way. The road blocks we set up are not going to prevent all of them, perhaps some, as people may not wish to get so personal like a knife or club when killing others;so I suppose banning could deter some. Not everyone, guns aren't the problem people are the problem and have been the problem since we were hitting eachother over the head with rocks and living in caves.

Some roadblocks stop some things.

And sometimes, my irrational choices people reap the benefits. Wether that be I made a wrong choice or a right choice.

I believe a business decision was made. If the sales of a AR type rifle where low enough to warrant drop that type of rifle, I do not find it particularly disturbing. If someone wants a AR type rifle they can still purchase it elsewhere.

a reply to: reldra

I can see the pro - second amendment crowd being initially dismayed by this, but I would like to point out that this will be good for independent retailers, because a whale of a company just left the market place.

A more even playing field will be beneficial to retailers, and customers alike, and will also mean that experienced and knowledgeable sellers are the only option for purchasing a firearm of this sort legally, rather than purchasing goods from some spotty faced halfwit in the customer service equivalent of the seventh circle of hell.

This cannot be anything but good news in my view!

Bleh already covered...

second


I could care less if they sell it or not, never bought a gun from them and wont..

Stupid irrational false statements given out as if they are fact piss me off..

a reply to: TrueBrit

There is no "pro" seconded amendment crowd, truthfully in reality it does not matter wether you like hate or want to unzip your pants and unleash holy hell on the seconded amendment. It is there and it is there in stone, and on the flip side abortion is there and it will remain. Though I have engaged in the topic twice I try not to, because it's a fruitless topic this is the law of the land we can cry about it, bicker fight eachother but this is the law. In the case of guns even further, this is a right guaranteed by our founding documents. With that we need to get past these issues and move forward address the issues that need changing, like social economic disparity. That's how I feel about all this partisan and polarizing topics.

originally posted by: avgguy
Sometimes I kind of wish people knew what they were talking about when they made these type of threads.

As we've seen time and again on ATS with these types of threads....don't get your hopes up. You'll be disappointed.

As for the story itself, who cares. It appears to be a financial decision, one based on slowing sales and plummeting market prices brought on by the fact that the market is oversaturated with AR-15 type rifles and the fact that just about everyone who wanted one bought one (or three) over the last couple of years. Furthermore, for the people that actually are buying these types of firearms, for most of them, Walmart probably isn't their first...or second...or third choice for a gun dealer. The point being, I doubt they're selling many.

originally posted by: vor78

Furthermore, for the people that actually are buying these types of firearms, for most of them, Walmart probably isn't their first...or second...or third choice for a gun dealer. The point being, I doubt they're selling many.

Exactly, considering Wal-Mart never sold firearms in New Jersey to begin with I use the local dealer next to my favorite range in West Paterson.

They are knowledgeable, courteous and willing to answer my questions. Just like any retailer selling anything should be doing.

a reply to: TechniXcality

Well, you are welcome to your opinion on the matter of whether or not there is, or is not a large group of people who enjoy their second amendment rights far more enthusiastically than others, and seek to promote its sanctity as a founding principle, and as a right which should not be infringed. To be clear, I support that view very much, by the way.

All I am saying is that AR-15s no longer being sold in Walmart stores cannot help but be beneficial to independent firearms dealers in the long run, and that this is going to turn out being beneficial to the industry as a whole, the small retailers, and the consumer as well. The less pies Walmart have their fingers in the better, and when it comes to something as important as firearms, specifically rifles, I think it makes more sense to purchase any such thing from a specialist who can offer sound advice and the benefit of specific experience.

You do not purchase car parts from a butcher, and you do not buy meat from the machine shop. Do you see where I am coming from?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
You do not purchase car parts from a butcher, and you do not buy meat from the machine shop. Do you see where I am coming from?

Although it would be kind of cool to grab a dry aged porterhouse and a high profile camshaft all in the same place.

originally posted by: zombicide83
a reply to: TsukiLunar

kinda funny that most mass shootings are carried out buy gun hating liberals.

Not all in that article are describes as liberals and they can't possibly hate guns, they all shot people.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TrueBrit
You do not purchase car parts from a butcher, and you do not buy meat from the machine shop. Do you see where I am coming from?

Although it would be kind of cool to grab a dry aged porterhouse and a high profile camshaft all in the same place.

Talked to a guy at Walmart the other day about this. Walmart will no longer carry rifles other then air soft. And handguns will also disappear when there stock runs out. There was just no money in it for them they say on the shelf until they discounted them. No one goes to Walmart to buy a gun. They make the money on ammo and accesories.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Heh... WD40 rubs and Cajun lubricants are a must as well!!

You know what I am getting at though!

originally posted by: TrueBrit
Heh... WD40 rubs and Cajun lubricants are a must as well!!

You know what I am getting at though!

I just patented the concept. How would you like to be the UK franchisee? We can call it Prime Rev.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I am so down with this concept, that I have just collapsed local space time and created a wormhole to the future... We get sued... Turns out complex hydrocarbons do not go particularly well with ribs, steaks, and burgers!