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originally posted by: ketsuko
It's not about how worthwhile you feel at the job. It's about how many other people on the planet at that time can do the very same work you are doing that determines the pay.
If I can go out and pick up random schmo off the street to do what you're doing with next to no training at short notice (and pretty much all fast food jobs are those jobs), then the job doesn't command much pay.
But feel free to start your own fast food joint a pay people what you feel the jobs deserve.
But what my parents told me when I used to loathe my fast food job was that it was training me for the future an teaching me what I definitely DID NOT want to do for the rest of my life so stay in school.
originally posted by: beezzer
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
originally posted by: beezzer
No-one should have to work hard, because it is hard.
Everyone should get a corner office immediately upon graduating 6th grade.
Seriously though, life sucks sometimes. It isn't easy.
Never saw a guarantee that it was supposed to be easy either.
It sure does suck. And I'm not saying someone should flip a switch and put life on "easy mode" for everyone.
But people working an honest 40 should earn a livable wage. Those are my thoughts on it.
A living wage is an arbitrary term.
Does it mean being able to afford basic cable? Or is HBO a right?
Life isn't easy, it isn't fair, it often sucks.
You can either make the best of it and work hard, or find ways around that.
A living wage for any worker should be enough to cover her or his basic needs, and the needs of her family.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: dawnstar
The "fix" isn't to pay burger flippers more. You could pay me $50/hr to do that job, and I'd still hate it. And would happily quit to return to this job that is less. I could have bailed and went to the oilfield making close to $200k a year.....but i'd hate the job. So i didn't do that.
But if you want to fix the economy, then you need to put value back into it. You can't just shoehorn higher wages for folks who really don't earn it. Instead, provide them opportunities to train for and acquire jobs where they can actually earn the wages they want.
20 years ago McDonalds was a job for kids, felons, and simpletons. We've lost enough middle class jobs that bright people end up degraded working for a place like that. Their talents are left to languish while they ring up burger orders by pushing a button that has a picture of hte product on it. Its mindless, dreary, and wholly unfullfilling. McDonalds work is not a solution for our economy, no matter how much money you throw at it.
McDonalds and fast food are meant for 2 things: for slackers to get by, and for greenhorns to develop some basic job skills.
Fishermen sit and wait for the fish to come to them.
originally posted by: onequestion
That's a load of crap.
So your answer is "Go be homeless somewhere else".
originally posted by: [post=19525924]ScientificRailgun]
There's these things called feet, you can use them to move through space time. Might try it out once in a while.