Cheop’s Pyramid : A theory to explain the internal architecture

originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk


You OBVIOUSLY don't know what your talking about .

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Ahhh the battle cry of pseudo historians with no evidence at all, everywhere

Translation - en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Marduk

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The complete data from most if not all surveys is not shared publicly .

But what has been shared indicates many chambers spaces and passages .

But you know that .. right ?

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Guess not which makes your opinion worthless .

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originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk

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The complete data from most if not all surveys is not shared publicly .

But what has been shared indicates many chambers spaces and passages .

But you know that .. right ?

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Guess not which makes your opinion worthless .

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I didn't know that
can you give me a list of the surveys that have not been made public ?

a reply to: Marduk

Can you name one that has ? ... anyone ?

paste the link please .

Every time a legitimate study reports anomalous findings it is shut down by the Egyptian authorities .

I'd love to see the scans and read those reports .

Not just two or three bullet points .
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originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk

Can you name one that has ? ... anyone ?

paste the link please .

Every time a legitimate study reports anomalous findings it is shut down by the Egyptian authorities .

I'd love to see the scans and read those reports .

Not just two or three bullet points .
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I have already posted a link to the radiocarbon surveys which you don't agree with, they released all the data. All of it
You made the claim, so you need to either support it or withdraw it

You said

The complete data from most if not all surveys is not shared publicly

Name me five of these surveys
Just five

This will devolve into our understanding that ROCR13 means that such surveys have never been read to him by his butler (which he doesn't have) while he sipped on Beaujolais and nibbled a selection of cheeses.

That is, studies are certainly published. It's sheer idiocy to complain that you haven't read them, if reading them is what you want.

All it takes is a subscription or twenty which is, admittedly, pricey. Certainly when you look at the number of journals you'd need to have on hand.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
All it takes is a subscription or twenty which is, admittedly, pricey. Certainly when you look at the number of journals you'd need to have on hand.

Harte

I have found that usually the person in charge of the survey will be happy to send you a full copy if you ask nicely.
You should see my pdf collection

a reply to: Marduk

If true .. I appreciate the reply

I have a vast collection too ..gotta love the internet .

How about the

1987 Waseda University xray study .

1988 survey led by Professor Yoshimura

1986 French architects study in the queens chamber ... including sample analysis .

I'd be thrilled to review any of their data ..

thx

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originally posted by: Marduk

originally posted by: Harte
All it takes is a subscription or twenty which is, admittedly, pricey. Certainly when you look at the number of journals you'd need to have on hand.

Harte

I have found that usually the person in charge of the survey will be happy to send you a full copy if you ask nicely.
You should see my pdf collection

Sure, but you'd have to keep up with ongoing research in order to find out who to ask for a copy.

Without reading multiple journals, your only source for new findings would be the media.
Bad idea, that.

All assuming (of course) that you want to read the results of such surveys.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

Well that's my point we live in a global community we have access to vast knowledge ..
But you still can't google it an get any where and that is negligent by any reasonable standard of professional behavior .
they act as if its should be proprietary and i can understand that for a while anyway .
but 20 years ?

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originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk

If true .. I appreciate the reply

I have a vast collection too ..gotta love the internet .

How about the

1987 Waseda University xray study .

1988 survey led by Professor Yoshimura

1986 French architects study in the queens chamber ... including sample analysis .

I'd be thrilled to review any of their data ..

thx

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Both the Waseda studies are available here in pdf
www.egyptpro.sci.waseda.ac.jp...
Guess these haven't been published then, like you said

There is no downloadable file for the two French architects, because they did it for the book money
you can buy a copy here
www.amazon.fr...
They also did a survey in 2000, you can buy that book here
www.amazon.fr...
So these are the surveys that haven't been released

originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Harte

Well that's my point we live in a global community we have access to vast knowledge ..
But you still can't google it an get any where and that is negligent by any reasonable standard of professional behavior.

Hardly.

Your complaint appears to be that no one has handed you this info for free, therefore it hasn't been published.

They don't even give away TVGuide magazine for free, you know. And it's filled with ads.

originally posted by: R0CR13they act as if its should be proprietary and i can understand that for a while anyway but 20 years ?

That would be about demand.

It costs money to upload and maintain data to the internet.

Most people that need to review old info can do so through various sites you have to pay to access - like Jstor - if the info isn't already available to them in the form of back copies of journals at some library or other, or through copies provided to them by the original researcher, or by accessing the original field notes, findings and conclusions written by the previous researcher at some archive or other.

Fees such as for Jstor are usually paid by the institution doing the research, such as the university or association the researcher (that needs the info) is working for, but there's nothing to keep you from paying to access Jstor and other such sites.

Just like there's nothing keeping you from getting four or five scientific journals in your mailbox every month.

Harte

Your complaint appears to be that no one has handed you this info for free, therefore it hasn't been published.

Wait what, I wasn't supposed to hand it all to him for free, while at the same time proving he was a conspiracy theorist
well why didn't anyone tell me earlier

a reply to: Marduk

Thx props to your google skills .

now I need to learn french

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originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk

Thx props to your google skills .

now I need to learn french

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Probably easier to get a French girlfriend

a reply to: Marduk

True .. LoL

I cant believe I couldnt find those surveys .

Reviewing now ... awsome stuff there at Waseda .

Thanks again

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originally posted by: R0CR13
a reply to: Marduk

True .. LoL

I cant believe I couldnt find those surveys .

Reviewing now ... awsome stuff there at Waseda .

Thanks again

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You couldn't find them, because you had convinced yourself that they had been hidden, so your heart wasn't in it
This is called Cognitive dissonance en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Marduk

Could be or maybe I got fed up with googles skewed results .

There is some seriously good data at that link ..

anyone who hasn't seen it needs to have a look at ...

Modern Technology at the Giza Necropolis

SEC06 Pyramid Investigation1

SEC06 Pyramid Investigation2

I didnt know that the queens chamber "New Passage" had been established .

very cool

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a reply to: R0CR13

The french guy of which Marduk linked the books also made another one proposing an undiscovered room under and west of Queen's room.

www.amazon.fr...
www.fayard.fr...

Interestingly enough he discovered 2 hiddens room in Meidum pyramid with the same method in 2000.

www.theguardian.com...

Maybe another reason to learn the language of Molière.

a reply to: LoveSolMoonDeath



looks like it is a passage still over ten years have gone by ... and still no movement by the Council of Antiquities
when they open up and let science have its day will be a very interesting time .

from article

Whether Mr Dormion is right remains to be seen. Mr Verd'hurt describes his "absolute frustration" at the Supreme Council of Antiquities' refusal to authorise further investigations, for which they have offered him no explanation. No one from the council was prepared to comment.

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