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Originally posted by dtmfreak
why would the US not use its full capabilities in an aerobatic exercise? Making their jets lose is a stupid strategy as it may hurt the patriotic feeling that most of you possess about American jets. The government would never do that. I think the India-US exercise served as an effective reality check for the Americans.
In terms of aircraft that is currently in service, SU-30mki or Eurofighter take the crown. For those of you that definetely pledge that Eurofighter or Rafael are better then SU-30mki are jumping the gun too fast, those sneeky Russians always have tricks up their sleeves. When F-22 comes into service (which may be a long time especially because US just cut the budget on it due to the stupid war) then I think it will be the best air superiority jet. Although then again, you just never know.
Originally posted by Dima
i already mentioned all that, no AWACS support, outnumbered by 3, the Su-30MKI, would still come out on top though
Originally posted by Broadsword20068As said above, the F-15 pilots there were handicapped a great deal in that exercise; it was an agreement made with the IAF even to handicap them. The F-15s flew with a second-rate radar, they had no AWACS support, the IAF DID have AWACS support, and the IAF planes also flew with a good deal larger number of planes then the U.S. The purpose of the exercise was as a ploy for the F/A-22 and to learn more about the IAF without giving away to them our tactics.
And as I just described, yes the IAF was trying; obviously not fully, but still a good deal more than the F-15s were. Had the American F-15's flown with the same number of planes as the IAF did, with AWACS support, the odds would have been a lot different. Had they flown with the newer radar, the odds would have been totally different.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Originally posted by Hockeyguy567
Everyone with a brain knows that the US pilots were handicapped up to their eyeballs. Did your IQ just suddenly drop sharply recently? You gotta stop believing the BS man, the F-15C will own the Su-30MKI (or any variant)
And give that link a rest, it's the only source you have, pathetic.
[edit on 8-1-2005 by Hockeyguy567]
Arrgghh put a lid on it Hockeyguy!!! Maybe stealth spy used taht link too much but I've had wth you overzealous yanks who think that the F-15 avoinics is superior to the MKI stuff...I've completed many courses in radar tech/structures/design as a part of my engg. curriculum and IMHO the AESA and N011M similar in concept and design.So unless anybody with INSIGHT on the topic(flight avionics) can PROVE that F-15 avionics are superior to their MKI counterparts, I suggest all you F-15 enthusiasts shut the f*** up!!
[edit on 8-1-2005 by Daedalus3]