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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Cuervo
Someone else brought up rome but did the spartans marry same sex? no To my knowledge they were married to women.
That can be viewed two different ways.
One could say that the dose of morality givin to rome by christianity was the cause for the fall.
One has to be effing blind to deny that traditional marriage and christian morality formed the greatest country on earth and the most reveloutionary time in earths history.
originally posted by: TechUnique
a reply to: Sremmos80
Christian Marriage is Christian Marriage. The state turned it into a commodity and wants to go AGAINST Christian rules in order to enforce public opinion into the Christian domain. If Marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman, a Christian man and a woman at that, then the church should have every right to keep it that way.
The same goes for a pastor that wants to marry a gay couple. The law shouldn't stop it happening OR not happening. It should be down to the individual circumstances, who is ordaining the marriage and who is getting married.
This is fake liberalism. 'Everyone should be free to do everything, unless you are refusing to do something for someone, in which case you will be forced to do so, even if it goes against your personal beliefs' Again, this is fake liberalism.
I fail to see how people get so wrapped up in the hysteria surrounding Gay marriage. Do gays NEED to get married and have the title of marriage in order to live together the same as a married couple do?
Why can't you have a different name for Gay marriage that doesn't blaspheme God? You do realize that marrying a gay couple in a Christian church is blasphemy right?
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Cuervo
Someone else brought up rome but did the spartans marry same sex? no To my knowledge they were married to women.
They weren't married in a civic sense but more of a military sense. One of the Spartan armies, "The Sacred Band of Thebes" were exclusively made from same-sex couples but even the "straightest" of the Spartan units were encouraged to have sexual relations with one another in order to form a closer camaraderie.
It wasn't secret nor was it something frowned upon. I mean, look at those capes. You really never knew?
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
Anyone who promotes one of Satan's greatest sins of temptation, is a minion of Satan, whether they believe to be or not. Homosexuality is a way of Blaspheming God. Satan loves to do that. Gangster rappers are minions of Satan. Celebrity idols are minions of Satan. In fact, most people in this fallen age are minions of Satan.
This is precisely why everything will be rectified in the (probably not too distant) future. It's unfortunate that there is so much confusion and sickness in the world at the moment but all things must come to pass..
This world is a test. I am failing it because I sin everyday. I am not yet fully saved or 'Freed' from sin so please don't think that I'm passing judgement. I am merely relaying to you information that is the inspired word of God. Maybe you should check out the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and see what God thinks of the world today.
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
Anyone who promotes one of Satan's greatest sins of temptation, is a minion of Satan, whether they believe to be or not. Homosexuality is a way of Blaspheming God. Satan loves to do that. Gangster rappers are minions of Satan. Celebrity idols are minions of Satan. In fact, most people in this fallen age are minions of Satan.
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Tangerine
You seem to be heading in the right direction but it would be wiser to just leave marriage as it is and create a civil union that also bonds property in the same manner as marriage. All the benefits of marriage but regardless of the factor of sex. This would be wiser because more than just gays couldd benefit from such. Even two people not joined in sexual relationship but decide to get by together would not have to claim to be gay to get health care and tax breaks.
Then lgbt civil unions could even go out and find a church that would recognize there union as a marriage if they wanted to think God is cool with them.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Grimpachi
I can not forget something that never was.
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Cuervo
Someone else brought up rome but did the spartans marry same sex? no To my knowledge they were married to women.
They weren't married in a civic sense but more of a military sense. One of the Spartan armies, "The Sacred Band of Thebes" were exclusively made from same-sex couples but even the "straightest" of the Spartan units were encouraged to have sexual relations with one another in order to form a closer camaraderie.
It wasn't secret nor was it something frowned upon. I mean, look at those capes. You really never knew?
Are you saying their marriages were not legally binding? Yes or no.
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
Anyone who promotes one of Satan's greatest sins of temptation, is a minion of Satan, whether they believe to be or not. Homosexuality is a way of Blaspheming God. Satan loves to do that. Gangster rappers are minions of Satan. Celebrity idols are minions of Satan. In fact, most people in this fallen age are minions of Satan.
This is precisely why everything will be rectified in the (probably not too distant) future. It's unfortunate that there is so much confusion and sickness in the world at the moment but all things must come to pass..
This world is a test. I am failing it because I sin everyday. I am not yet fully saved or 'Freed' from sin so please don't think that I'm passing judgement. I am merely relaying to you information that is the inspired word of God. Maybe you should check out the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and see what God thinks of the world today.
How about proving that Satan exists outside of your storybook? Cite the testable evidence. While you're at it, prove that God exists, too.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Grimpachi
I can not forget something that never was.
Funny because that is similar to how I feel about deities and demons.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
Anyone who promotes one of Satan's greatest sins of temptation, is a minion of Satan, whether they believe to be or not. Homosexuality is a way of Blaspheming God. Satan loves to do that. Gangster rappers are minions of Satan. Celebrity idols are minions of Satan. In fact, most people in this fallen age are minions of Satan.
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How about spiritually arrogant hypocrites looking down their nose at other Christians; And feeling entitled to pass judgement on those they feel inferior to themselves.
Check this out....
Matthew 7:13 KJV
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: olaru12
I said perhaps as in i am not sure but it is possible.
God please protect me from satan's minions and ground troops for they have touchy feelings now days.
Are you accusing me of being one of Satan's minions? Insulting another Christian because I don't have the narrow Biblical
view?
You just confirmed what I stated in my previous post.
Anyone who promotes one of Satan's greatest sins of temptation, is a minion of Satan, whether they believe to be or not. Homosexuality is a way of Blaspheming God. Satan loves to do that. Gangster rappers are minions of Satan. Celebrity idols are minions of Satan. In fact, most people in this fallen age are minions of Satan.
This is precisely why everything will be rectified in the (probably not too distant) future. It's unfortunate that there is so much confusion and sickness in the world at the moment but all things must come to pass..
This world is a test. I am failing it because I sin everyday. I am not yet fully saved or 'Freed' from sin so please don't think that I'm passing judgement. I am merely relaying to you information that is the inspired word of God. Maybe you should check out the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and see what God thinks of the world today.
How about proving that Satan exists outside of your storybook? Cite the testable evidence. While you're at it, prove that God exists, too.
Prove that Satan exists? There are millions of testimonies. Go check them out. Oh wait now, they must all be crazy right?
It wouldn't matter what I presented to you. It really wouldn't would it?