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Jeb Bush asks to meet privately with Mitt Romney in Utah

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posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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The cold hard truth is that people...the people that swing elections...not the hard core conservatives or hard core liberals. The moderates in the middle...they trust Hillary Clinton more than Jeb Bush or Mit Romney...then you have women voters and minorities...and....well, neither Bush nor Romney can beat hillary. That's my opinion, but I truly believe that...so, there needs to be some brains in the republican side that can start pushing another candidate...Jindal doesn't have it....Carson doesn't have it Rand Paul doesnt' have it. Ron Paul doesn't have it. Rick Perry doesn't have it. Huckabee doesn't have it. Bachmann doesn't have it. So who's left?

If there was a strong republican candidate that didn't come across as too religious and really pushed for lowering taxes and reigning in the alphabet agencies...He/She could win.

Otherwise, we're stuck with Hillary/Bush with Hillary winning. Despite his moral issues, people liked Bill...a lot and people remember that the country flourished while he was president. They'll associate Hillary with that.

So really it's up to the republicans on who the next president is.

Or...with all the Billionaires in the country and all the multi millionaires...there is enough money and clout to seriously push a couple of third party candidates. There is enough social media clout to get these third party candidates into the debate and national stage.

Just my thoughts.




posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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you ''I hate Obama'' crowds have no idea how good we've got it..

just you wait for the Republicans to get back in power.. It will be GW bush on steroids!



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
you ''I hate Obama'' crowds have no idea how good we've got it..

just you wait for the Republicans to get back in power.. It will be GW bush on steroids!



I belong to the "hate em all crowd" We have been screwed by Obama, and we will be screwed over by the next guy, unless we get a morally sound third party in. Even then not much they can really do since the president has less power than you think.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 08:42 PM
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Personally we have had CLinton, The Bushes, and Obama. I'm tired of the same old same old. I'd like to see a Reagan like President again to see if we can get back to our roots.

Hillary a alinky based candidate will continue and expand the progressive agenda which IMO has moved AMerica in the wrong direction.

A Bush or Romney Potus would perhaps take AMerica in a less aggresive direction but still a place where the people are second to corporations.

Of the more right contenders sadly I don't see anyone that could beat Hillary and would get us back to our core values.

Basically whether it's a democrat or a Rhino republican we are pretty much screwed.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
you ''I hate Obama'' crowds have no idea how good we've got it..

just you wait for the Republicans to get back in power.. It will be GW bush on steroids!



Really?!?! What is so good good for the average America about Obama?



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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I have no reason to base this on other then a gut feeling but Marco Rubio is unique. He is younger, latino, well spoken, and good looking so perhaps he has a chance. Also on another thread a "future friend" said that he would be President. lol



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 08:52 PM
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Hilary will beat Warren. Warren is a real socialist. Hilary is a socialist for the wealthy. No way Wallstreet will let Warren win.

Although I can't stand any form of socialism because it always easy for the wealthy to hijack it. Too much power is centralized.



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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Long live the Monarchy!



posted on Jan, 22 2015 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: sirlancelot

I'd rather get back to the Thomas Jefferson's.

Guy eliminated all direct taxation on American citizens.



Thomas Jefferson repealed all internal taxes and ran the government solely from trade tariff revenue.


www.houseofpolitics.com...



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

Smart move. The others said what I think already, it's a good strategy that they work with eachother through the primaries otherwise they'll end up tearing eachother apart. Now some here disagree with the notion that Romney will accept VP. I disagree... I think Romney has read the writing on the wall.... two runs for president in 2008 and 2012.... he lost both.. he lost alot of money in both those presidential years.. he's being trodded out to the public twice, people are sick of him in my opinion... I think a deal from Bush for him to be a veep is a good compromise on Mitt's part.... It's the closest he'd ever get to the presidency and I'm sure he knows it. He'll settle.



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

If we get a bush or Clinton as president I believe it's time to revolt and cause anarchy! I don't want to live in an oligarchy this is why we have the second amendment !



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: tiberius10721
a reply to: Southern Guardian

If we get a bush or Clinton as president I believe it's time to revolt and cause anarchy! I don't want to live in an oligarchy this is why we have the second amendment !


Rut Roe, Your on the list now? Might get a knock at the door from your friendly nieghborhood FBI agent.



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: tiberius10721
a reply to: Southern Guardian

If we get a bush or Clinton as president I believe it's time to revolt and cause anarchy! I don't want to live in an oligarchy this is why we have the second amendment !


We already live in an Oligarchy. It's a corporate Oligarchy rapidly approaching the gates of tyranny. The politicians just do what the corporate masters tell them to do.

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense! It apparently has by making those kind of dumbass threats.

edit on 23-1-2015 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: amazing
The cold hard truth is that people...the people that swing elections...not the hard core conservatives or hard core liberals. The moderates in the middle...they trust Hillary Clinton more than Jeb Bush or Mit Romney...then you have women voters and minorities...and....well, neither Bush nor Romney can beat hillary. That's my opinion, but I truly believe that...so, there needs to be some brains in the republican side that can start pushing another candidate...Jindal doesn't have it....Carson doesn't have it Rand Paul doesnt' have it. Ron Paul doesn't have it. Rick Perry doesn't have it. Huckabee doesn't have it. Bachmann doesn't have it. So who's left?



If there was a strong republican candidate that didn't come across as too religious and really pushed for lowering taxes and reigning in the alphabet agencies...He/She could win.



Otherwise, we're stuck with Hillary/Bush with Hillary winning. Despite his moral issues, people liked Bill...a lot and people remember that the country flourished while he was president. They'll associate Hillary with that.



So really it's up to the republicans on who the next president is.



Or...with all the Billionaires in the country and all the multi millionaires...there is enough money and clout to seriously push a couple of third party candidates. There is enough social media clout to get these third party candidates into the debate and national stage.



Just my thoughts.






posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

What I find appalling is the INSANE amount of money that is going to be spent in the next 14 - 16 months, and we'll end up with BUSH vs. CLINTON anyway.

I think all those campaign dollars could be used for something else. What a crock and a waste!



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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Ummmm.....yeah. If he wanted to meet in private, we wouldn't be hearing about it. They want people to know because they want to see what kind of reaction it gets.

Anyway, I know it won't make a damn bit of difference in what actually takes place but at this point, I'm done with the Democrats. At least when the Republicans are running things liberals have enough sense to be halfway skeptical and wary of everything that happens. When someone they like is running the show (Obama) the only real criticism or skepticism comes from the Republicans, who nobody listens to and everyone hates.



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: olaru12

What I find appalling is the INSANE amount of money that is going to be spent in the next 14 - 16 months, and we'll end up with BUSH vs. CLINTON anyway.

I think all those campaign dollars could be used for something else. What a crock and a waste!


Except for one thing....

The campaigns are an industry employing thousands of people. I'm one of them; working for the GOP media machine and I can use the money. I know....I'm a hypocrite for taking money from an organization that wants to destroy the middle class, but like I said...I need the money.

I do agree with you however that it's a crock and a waste, obscene amounts are being spent for a stupid spectacle of absurdity, giving the impression that our vote matters.
edit on 23-1-2015 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: olaru12

There are so many people on the right with varying ideas about running the country - we have Ted Kruz, Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee - all far right and tea party, but still different from each other, all the way to Mitt Romney, Chris Cristy and Jeb Bush, who lean to the left, last time I checked, but could still change their stripes. Then we have all the ones that fall somewhere in the middle: Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, John Kasich, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Carly Fiorina... Whew! So many! Does anyone else think the rift in the GOP nearly guarantees a split vote, securing another win for the Dems?

To the topic, Jeb Bush would be wise to pick Romney as his running mate, IMO. I wouldn't vote for them, but it makes a pretty strong Republican ticket. Stronger than any of the others.


Why would a split in the primaries guarantee anything? Makes no sense.

I think after watching the last election, 8 years of Obama, and the fact that Hillary may be the best the Democrats can offer, the only way the Republicans can lose is if they simply don't want to win.



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: Jamie1

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: olaru12

There are so many people on the right with varying ideas about running the country - we have Ted Kruz, Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee - all far right and tea party, but still different from each other, all the way to Mitt Romney, Chris Cristy and Jeb Bush, who lean to the left, last time I checked, but could still change their stripes. Then we have all the ones that fall somewhere in the middle: Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, John Kasich, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Carly Fiorina... Whew! So many! Does anyone else think the rift in the GOP nearly guarantees a split vote, securing another win for the Dems?

To the topic, Jeb Bush would be wise to pick Romney as his running mate, IMO. I wouldn't vote for them, but it makes a pretty strong Republican ticket. Stronger than any of the others.


Why would a split in the primaries guarantee anything? Makes no sense.

I think after watching the last election, 8 years of Obama, and the fact that Hillary may be the best the Democrats can offer, the only way the Republicans can lose is if they simply don't want to win.


I disagree. I think the republicans have too many weak candidates. I don't think the American people trust or want romney or Bush...I think the second tier under them like Carson, Bachmann, both Pauls, Huckabee, Perry, Jindal...I don't think they go over well with the moderates in the middle that swing the presidential elections.

I could be wrong, but I really don't think Bush or Romney can beat Hillary. Who else is there? That's the question.



posted on Jan, 23 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

Roman good governor vs bad governor routine. Similar to good cop vs bad cop but with more cool tricks. Who do you think got Obama in there to keep the seat warm?

No mystery when you finally understand how it works



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