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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos
You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.
You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.
I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.
In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.
The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,
But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.
It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.
Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".
I'm sorry, but there is zero credible evidence that Nasa are withholding valuable info. None that is in anyway credible and hasnt been debunked.
What evidence are they withholding? Anything that is worth going to all that trouble for (and the logistics are staggering) would be game changers and anyone who had a shred of REAL evidence that anything like that is being hidden would be all over the news.
Let me repeat it, there is zero CREDIBLE evidence.
There is no blind trust in authority on my part. I know governments lie, but then i am a fairly intelligent man and am capable of reasoning. And my reasoning tells me that while "they" might lie about certain things, that does not mean that they are hiding anything to do with mars or the moon. I am capable of thinking that the logistics of retouching every single old and new image and then making sure that the foreign space agencies retouch any photos in EXACTLY the same way are too big to even contemplate.
This has nothing to do with me blindly trusting the government, but considering that every space agency on the planet, certainly NASA, are desperate for money, any huge reveal they can play to garner public interest will be released to the public. Use. Your. Heads. Think. Logically.
Do the governments lie about certain things? Yes
Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.
originally posted by: AnuTyr
that really does look like an axle. The trick is to ask the experts what they see in the image and to not say it's from mars.
Then when they say well that's an axle. You say it's mars
originally posted by: Aleister
From my experience on the anomalies thread, becoming a bit of a student of how to look at Mars pictures, maybe a B or B- student because I'm not good on the technical stuff, I'd say that this is surely a combination of a few rocks on a highly zoomed-in photograph. And even at that range of photo blow-up, the middle rock, the part which has an optical illusion of connecting the two 'weights', seems much larger than the connecting rod would be, and flairs up and out to the top-left. The rock which contains the front-facing round object is much larger than that object - an object which has an optical illusion of bring rounded on top with a light-reflection but the light reflection is the top and side of this larger rock. The optical illusion of the roundness of the object in back, the other end of the 'barbell', seems to be another rock, quite misshapen from its initially-seen roundness. The only thing interesting to me is the roundness of the two differently-colored images in front, which is cool. But at this distance, and with the rock that contains that object being larger, odds are very great that the rocks, the light, and the shadows are making that look like something other than what it actually is. My two cents, cents decimated by inflation as measured by the cost of postage stamps.