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Wheels and Axle? caught by Mars Rover Curiosity?

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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos

You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.

You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.

I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.

In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.

The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,

But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.

It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.

Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".




posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos

You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.

You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.

I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.

In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.

The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,

But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.

It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.

Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".



I'm sorry, but there is zero credible evidence that Nasa are withholding valuable info. None that is in anyway credible and hasnt been debunked.

What evidence are they withholding? Anything that is worth going to all that trouble for (and the logistics are staggering) would be game changers and anyone who had a shred of REAL evidence that anything like that is being hidden would be all over the news.

Let me repeat it, there is zero CREDIBLE evidence.

There is no blind trust in authority on my part. I know governments lie, but then i am a fairly intelligent man and am capable of reasoning. And my reasoning tells me that while "they" might lie about certain things, that does not mean that they are hiding anything to do with mars or the moon. I am capable of thinking that the logistics of retouching every single old and new image and then making sure that the foreign space agencies retouch any photos in EXACTLY the same way are too big to even contemplate.

This has nothing to do with me blindly trusting the government, but considering that every space agency on the planet, certainly NASA, are desperate for money, any huge reveal they can play to garner public interest will be released to the public. Use. Your. Heads. Think. Logically.

Do the governments lie about certain things? Yes
Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

Do the governments lie about certain things? Yes
Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.



Your pleas to common sense will be ignored here my friend.

I've heard it lauded on here that any members who do not take the 'moon hoax' as a fact shouldn't even be members on ATS.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: Soapusmaximus

There's a big difference between asking questions and indulging in fantasy.

Care to name some of the credible people you mention?



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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Take the original image and make it 20 inches by 18 inches. Take a 1 inch by 1 inch section and count the shapes you see. Multiple that by 360 and that is how many different shapes are in that one photo. of course your going to find something. If all that is left is a wheel and axle which survived longer than any structure made., I find it hard to believe. Imagine on earth so much time passes that all structure are wiped out and you see no Remanence of anything. but a wheel and axle. by the way there are 12960 different shapes in that photo. Don't let me ruin your fun. I am really not to smart. Can barely spell right
edit on 2-10-2014 by jlafleur02 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 11:32 PM
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I find these pictures quite interesting to look at. And the circular shapes, including the axel, seem to stick out like the proverbial sore thumb.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: jlafleur02
by the way there are 12960 different shapes in that photo.


That may well be. But only ONE which looks surprisingly like two wheels with an axle : )



I find it hard to believe. Imagine on earth so much time passes that all structure are wiped out and you see no Remanence of anything. but a wheel and axle.


Well I find it hard to believe as well, but it STILL looks like a wheel and an axle to me. All logic and common sense cannot hide what's clearly in plain sight, at least it APPEARS not natural and would deserve closer investigation, IMHO.

edit on 10/2/2014 by NoRulesAllowed because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 12:50 AM
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Forget the dumbell, axel and wheel... we need to rescue this DOG!



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: Tardacus
I would say 1 resembles a car battery.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos

You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.

You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.

I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.

In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.

The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,

But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.

It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.

Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".



I'm sorry, but there is zero credible evidence that Nasa are withholding valuable info. None that is in anyway credible and hasnt been debunked.

What evidence are they withholding? Anything that is worth going to all that trouble for (and the logistics are staggering) would be game changers and anyone who had a shred of REAL evidence that anything like that is being hidden would be all over the news.

Let me repeat it, there is zero CREDIBLE evidence.

There is no blind trust in authority on my part. I know governments lie, but then i am a fairly intelligent man and am capable of reasoning. And my reasoning tells me that while "they" might lie about certain things, that does not mean that they are hiding anything to do with mars or the moon. I am capable of thinking that the logistics of retouching every single old and new image and then making sure that the foreign space agencies retouch any photos in EXACTLY the same way are too big to even contemplate.

This has nothing to do with me blindly trusting the government, but considering that every space agency on the planet, certainly NASA, are desperate for money, any huge reveal they can play to garner public interest will be released to the public. Use. Your. Heads. Think. Logically.

Do the governments lie about certain things? Yes
Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.


Sounds like they have tamed you to be a good sheep and fall in line.
If you call that intelligent, then have fun with that.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:28 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014




Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.


Your opinion only.... Oh no not only a opinion also a conviction.. people are daft if they dare to believe moon landings are fake.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:29 AM
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originally posted by: Spacespider

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos

You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.

You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.

I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.

In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.

The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,

But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.

It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.

Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".



I'm sorry, but there is zero credible evidence that Nasa are withholding valuable info. None that is in anyway credible and hasnt been debunked.

What evidence are they withholding? Anything that is worth going to all that trouble for (and the logistics are staggering) would be game changers and anyone who had a shred of REAL evidence that anything like that is being hidden would be all over the news.

Let me repeat it, there is zero CREDIBLE evidence.

There is no blind trust in authority on my part. I know governments lie, but then i am a fairly intelligent man and am capable of reasoning. And my reasoning tells me that while "they" might lie about certain things, that does not mean that they are hiding anything to do with mars or the moon. I am capable of thinking that the logistics of retouching every single old and new image and then making sure that the foreign space agencies retouch any photos in EXACTLY the same way are too big to even contemplate.

This has nothing to do with me blindly trusting the government, but considering that every space agency on the planet, certainly NASA, are desperate for money, any huge reveal they can play to garner public interest will be released to the public. Use. Your. Heads. Think. Logically.

Do the governments lie about certain things? Yes
Are they lying about the moon landings and little aliens on Mars...dont be daft.


Sounds like they have tamed you to be a good sheep and fall in line.
If you call that intelligent, then have fun with that.


Don't forget there are many who are paid to supress the truth online and promote falsehoods. Sad but documented again and again, why would it be anything different with revelations like these?



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

So you know they lie, but you don't believe they're withholding credible evidence on the UFO/Alien phenomenon?

We have things called Top Secret, and also Above Top Secret.

Why do people think they're privvy to knowing everything that would be deemed Top Secret.

The ramifications to the truth are outstanding.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: skyblueworld

Because there are reasons for the real lies and only imaginary ones created by you guys for the imaginary lies about aliens.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:32 AM
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a reply to: Spacespider

Haha..so im a sheep because i use intelligent reasoning to form my opinions...thats fine with me. Rather that than some nutcase living on an internet forum obsessed with conspiracies that don't exist.

You guys are ridiculous. Anyone who disagrees with you is either a shill or a sheep...yawn, very tiring.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:35 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Ah yes....i'm a paid shill...You have nothing to substantiate ANY of your posts or conspiracies, so it all boils down to us being paid shills. Very lame.

Where is Planet X? I still cant see it...must be all the money im getting paid thats clouding my vision.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: [post=18487468]3danimator2014[/pos

You seem a little confrontational there mate, no need to get all snooty with people.

You are welcome to state facts all day long, but I for one am definitely offended by the way you address other members, I would appreciate you show a little more respect to others, even if you disagree with their views or Internet habits.

I am more in the middle, I don't claim to know everything - but I do know you put a little too much trust in these agencies to be honest with us about all they find.

In fact we know, and it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that NASA and the US government are most definitely withholding very important information.

The work has been done here for years, there are people (credible people) who have dedicated their lives to documenting NASA slip ups which expose at the very least that they are lying to the public about what they are doing on some of these missions and what they have found.
You seem to be arguing from a position of extreme ignorance, not because you are unknowledgeble about the space agency's or some of the missions they carry out,

But because you seem to take their word as sacred and beyond reproach, wheras I know that is sadly not the case.

It is that unquestioning attitude that is partly responsible for the autism epidemic, blind trust in corporate doctors.

Sorry to bring that up in many of my posts, but it is relevant and I have been personally affected by this blind trust in "authority".


Well said..



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:56 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
a reply to: skyblueworld

Because there are reasons for the real lies and only imaginary ones created by you guys for the imaginary lies about aliens.



Again that's just speculative. So thanks for your speculative opinion.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:03 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
a reply to: Spacespider

Haha..so im a sheep because i use intelligent reasoning to form my opinions...thats fine with me. Rather that than some nutcase living on an internet forum obsessed with conspiracies that don't exist.

You guys are ridiculous. Anyone who disagrees with you is either a shill or a sheep...yawn, very tiring.



Intelligent reasoning that implies that you are using logic
Calling people a nutcase because they have a opinion, that´s not very intelligent since all world genius spawned from individuals with theories, questions and having a personal opinion.

Intelligent reasoning is not a mainstream thing, it is not eat whatever in front of you
Intelligent reasoning is looking at the thing in front of you and see who gave it to you, and then perhaps eat it.




"you guys are ridiculous"

From your perspective and "intelligent reasoning" we would indeed look ridiculous in the eye of the beholder.



intelligent reasoning to form my opinions.


That´s not even a opinion, its a way of life its called comfortably numb
ignorance is bliss right ?



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