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And where exactly does it say he was in politics in that article?
и руководитель общественной организации "Европейский выбор" Павел Губарев
So when taking part in many of the threads on the war in Ukraine I cannot count the number of times I've been told:
There are no Neo-Nazis in Ukraine!!!
originally posted by: cahal
a reply to: Bassago
just want to add Novorossiya: People’s Militia Address to the Europeans with subtitles
good site for the sad truth
They are a minority in the West, but a majority among the pro-Russian separatists.
Right, got it, minority, tiny. They are a minority that's been sanctioned by Kiev with the subtle approval of the west and have now deployed in militias outside of Donetsk. From there and after the Ukraine military bombards the hell out of civilian areas with artillery the Neo-Nazis (like the Azov Battalion) make lightning attacks on the urban areas.
So you think sanctioning them is a good thing apparently. Okaaay.
Again, this thread isn't about the separatists, Putin or Russians.
Militias are militias. Neither the United States nor EU sanction the militias. If Kyiv wants to employ them, that's their business.
It's about Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, isn't it? How can you discuss Neo-Nazis in Ukraine without looking at the Russian skinheads holed up in Donetsk?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Bassago
So the Times is no longer "blinded" by the light of Aryan truth shining in the dark like a pile of burning tires. in front of a burning building, filled with burning people.
Our grandfathers fought against these cretins and nowadays our government reps are seeking photo ops with them.
it says right in the article that the government of Kiev says it's only one group....AZOV its called...controlled by one local commander. Kiev is trying to distance itself from this one group
The links in the OP were discussing the pro-Kiev militias being used against the eastern population. There was another thread about the pro-Russian skinheads to discuss that aspect of the problem.
Considering how you and others in the the Ukraine threads keep referring to the people of eastern Ukraine as pro-Russians, kinda nice to see u admit that they are actually Ukrainian, therefore the government of Ukraine has been murdering its own people.
The question is - is there anti-Gypsy or anti-Semitic rhetoric on the part of the Azovian Nazis? All we know so far is that they all hate Russians on an ethnic basis. Any facts backed up on racially motivated crimes?
The 35-year old commander began creating the battalion after he was released from pre-trial detention in February in the wake of pro-western protests in Kiev. He had denied a charge of attempted murder, claiming it was politically motivated.
A former history student and amateur boxer, Mr Biletsky [Azov commander] is also head of an extremist Ukrainian group called the Social National Assembly. “The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival,” he wrote in a recent commentary. “A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”
originally posted by: Bassago
I'm thinking you must have asked me that as a test. The Nazis were bad Charles, our forefathers died to stop them. We should not support them in any way, remember the Waffen SS. That's my opinion. Peace.