Here are the links I was taking about:
1. Fr Amorth's interview
In that interview the exorcist Fr Amorth said, Russia was NOT consecrated. Pope St John Paul II was under immense pressure by unnamed politicians up
until the last moment not to mention Russia by name. According to Fr Amorth, he himself was the organizer of 1984 consecration ceremony. So perhaps he
Or ... OL never asked for Russia to be consecrated, but something else? We don't know facts. We can't make elaborated interpretations without knowing
plain text of Our Lay's direct wordings. And we see such texts were persistently silenced, or changed, or shortened at best. It is a shame!
I don't know when Fr Amorth speaks sincerely as seen in the interview, whether he himself was told the real secret. Or just part of it, the convenient
part of consecration of Russia. What is the secret part that was never mentioned by anyone official until now?
Another exorhist of Vatican, mgr Balducci, pubished "Neues Europa" text of alleged 3rd secret of Fatima in the Vatican official newspaper Osservatore
Romano in 1978, in the period of interregnum between the death of John Paul 1 and the election of John Paul 2. He left the door open by saying he
didn't know whether that is the 3rd secret, only reposted it from Neues Europa magazine as information. (mgr Balducci is widely known for his later
interviews about alien life).
For reference to first-time readers, the so called 3rd secret of Fatima should appear as a missing text at the end of the so called 2nd secret. There
is a missing text at the end, and the Fatima researchers know that well. It is not a vision, it is a text message with particular place in the already
Another mass delusion is, the assumption that today's known secrets were somehow "known by the crowds" gathered on Oct 13, 1917 for the Sun miracle.
Movies make that speculation too. No, the crowds didn't know a word at that time. The world didn't know a word of that prophecy in the period
1917-1941. The first release was made only after 1941, only after WW2 was already started.
We have to acknowledge, today's officials are different from those who dealt with the secrets in 1941 and in 1960. (the 3rd secret should have been
released by 1960 according to Lucia/OL). The facts we have current leaks speak of that. Perhaps more will follow.
2. Sister Lucia's newly published part of diary
Sister Lucia allegedly talks of what should be a part of the "3rd secret" with pretty apocalyptic picture of planetary upheavals, but not as
apocalyptic as presented in Neues Europa. It is somewhat softened, and without a word of satan among church's ranks.
What is the source of that new leak? As that popular catholic site puts it, spiritdaily.com...
alluded to by her fellow sisters in an official publication of the Carmel of Coimbra."
Understand, direct Vatican permission for that info to be
ever leaked in print and/or online. Here is a part of the text, as appears in above sources:
The sea, rivers and clouds leave their bounds, they overflow, flood and drag with them into a whirlpool, houses and people in a number unable to
As I said in previous posts, both stories do not contain anything really "secret". We already know all that, and much more, for too long. Whatis it we
still don't know? It is a bit late to say, hei you don't have the right to comment, the officials have it alone. Hei, whatever the officials say, is
right before any reasoning.
Dear friends, we simply don't have the luxury of time today. Even if those who lived in 1960 thought they had it in the height of the cold war and
pointed thermonuclear missiles. Today it is "now or never". We either get to the promised land, or we lose it for generations together with the Church
established by Jesus Christ. No not waiting in caves before Armageddon and Second Coming. Since Nobody knows that, not even Lucia, nor Our Lady, much
less you and me, or a Vatican official.
Let get on the table the things we know of and see how to deal with the real world, so much changed by now. It depends on that the Church's survival
in the coming centuries. If that is not enough for a devote catholic, I really don't know what it is. To wait for death and hope for a sooner End
times...OMG. People did it already for 1900+ years. Everyone will die, but surely you don't want to see all efforts for 1900 years generations and
countless martyrs ruined, only because the last appointed generation to take decision were weak enough to not take decision for life. Good job of
satan isn't it. He doesn't need to do much only sit and wait. God wants to preserve life, and He never said a dating for His Second Coming, just the
Well I think the minutes for editing that post expired. God bless!
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