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Russia declares war on Ukraine. Live updates from inside Ukraine

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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:41 AM
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Oh please... like something bad was going to happen?

Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn.

Nothing has changed or will change. Just another person in power to dictate to a select few as to how to live in regards to what is allowed and not allowed by individuals.




posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:44 AM
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Check out this link

rt.com...



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:54 AM
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Don't know How much credible this tweet ..But so many tweeters reporting the Same


RealBreakingNews ‏@real_breaking 1m Ukraine column has reached Russian checkpoint. Russians begin firing in the air. Ukrainians keep marching via @shustry #crimea #ukraine



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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Any idea where this is taking place?!



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:56 AM
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Willbert
reply to post by andy1972
 


Oh please... like something bad was going to happen?

Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn.

Nothing has changed or will change. Just another person in power to dictate to a select few as to how to live in regards to what is allowed and not allowed by individuals.


Please explain more indepth what you mean by -

"Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn."

And yes, something has changed..the world map.

I find it funny how one or two Canadians here are taking this issue as -

"I HATE west, I HATE west, I HATE bankers" and "The only people complaining here are the Ukrainians, they should shut up"

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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 12:58 AM
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Not to mention a swing of world power and politics. The Bear has awoke from hibernation.


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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:06 AM
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andy1972

Willbert
reply to post by andy1972
 


Oh please... like something bad was going to happen?

Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn.

Nothing has changed or will change. Just another person in power to dictate to a select few as to how to live in regards to what is allowed and not allowed by individuals.


Please explain more indepth what you mean by -

"Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn."

And yes, something has changed..the world map.

I find it funny how one or two Canadians here are taking this issue as -

"I HATE west, I HATE west, I HATE bankers" and "The only people complaining here are the Ukrainians, they should shut up"

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I notice you like to tell people what to think and say. People have every right to have an opinion and to be able to voice it. I hate thought Nazi's.





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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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SubTruth

andy1972

Willbert
reply to post by andy1972
 


Oh please... like something bad was going to happen?

Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn.

Nothing has changed or will change. Just another person in power to dictate to a select few as to how to live in regards to what is allowed and not allowed by individuals.


Please explain more indepth what you mean by -

"Only hype is from those fear mongering that their personal life was about to take a turn."

And yes, something has changed..the world map.

I find it funny how one or two Canadians here are taking this issue as -

"I HATE west, I HATE west, I HATE bankers" and "The only people complaining here are the Ukrainians, they should shut up"

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I notice you like to tell people what to think and say. People have every right to have an opinion and to be able to voice it. I hate thought Nazi's.





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Where have i said, and please feel free to quote me from ANY post or thread i have written -

"You must think this...." or "you must say this...."

Keep looking, because you wont find even one instance...

As for "thought nazis"..I'll leave that to certain government departments.

Please give me written references where i have told anyone here on ATS in 9 years what to think or say..As you said yourself, everyone is entitled to their opinions, mine obviously doesnt fit in with yours, so you label me "thought nazi"..which is more than a little hypocritical, don't you think ?? Or by asking you that, am i forcing you to take my point of view??



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:16 AM
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doompornjunkie
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Any idea where this is taking place?!


happening in the occupied Belbek airbase

also the Base Commander Col. Yuli Manchur asking the Russian soldiers to allow their men go to access the Fighter Jets



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:20 AM
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Anshel Pfeffer ‏@AnshelPfeffer 7m
Compromise reached - 10 #Ukraine soldiers will be allowed to maintain the aircraft #Belbek

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posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:25 AM
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cerbium

Anshel Pfeffer ‏@AnshelPfeffer 7m
Compromise reached - 10 #Ukraine soldiers will be allowed to maintain the aircraft #Belbek

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Compromise is always good.
I honestly believe the Russians on the ground don't want this to kick off as much, if not more than the Ukranians.
Thats why this would be better left in the hands of the local commanders, soldiers dont want to fight.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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Except if your Ukranian



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:34 AM
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If he is allowed to take the Crimea without a fight what's stopping him from taking the rest of Ukraine and expanding his territory into other eastern block countries..



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:37 AM
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Well the bull# is still coming thick and fast, it's hard to tell what is happening as there is only a headline and no story,

Three Ukrainian air defense regiments have sided with Crimean local authorities, a spokesman for the Crimean government said.


voiceofrussia.com...



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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andy1972

cerbium

Anshel Pfeffer ‏@AnshelPfeffer 7m
Compromise reached - 10 #Ukraine soldiers will be allowed to maintain the aircraft #Belbek

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Compromise is always good.
I honestly believe the Russians on the ground don't want this to kick off as much, if not more than the Ukranians.
Thats why this would be better left in the hands of the local commanders, soldiers dont want to fight.


Of course they don't normally want to fight, bullets do happen to have the "right-of-way." Take away their guns, give them a lot of beer and vodka, 6% will duke it out and 94% will watch and laugh.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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ukranianprincess
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If he is allowed to take the Crimea without a fight what's stopping him from taking the rest of Ukraine and expanding his territory into other eastern block countries..


Nothing.. nothing at all. Earlier I stated that if NATO declines Poland in their request that basically its all over.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:39 AM
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King Vlad is drunk on his own power and importance......It's stupid that he thinks this way.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:40 AM
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ukranianprincess
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If he is allowed to take the Crimea without a fight what's stopping him from taking the rest of Ukraine and expanding his territory into other eastern block countries..
In the 21st Century that's not going to happen. The US and UK governments as well as other world powers will not stand idly by and watch Russia take over Ukraine. Right now the situation in the Crimea is serious and if Mr Putin thinks he can order his military to advance further into Ukraine without any military backlash from around the world then Mr Putin should think again. It wouldn't surprise me if the UK and US have special forces in the Crimea assessing the situation.



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:41 AM
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So therefore America and the EU can not let him have the Crimea and they will have to step in and help Ukraine or Russia will cripple Europe



posted on Mar, 4 2014 @ 01:44 AM
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ukranianprincess
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So therefore America and the EU can not let him have the Crimea and they will have to step in and help Ukraine or Russia will cripple Europe


Ukraine's importance isn't as important in that scenario as a member of NATO. If they refuse to help a NATO member, that will be the real game changer. Every piss ant little dictator will instantly grow 6 feet taller and start stomping around. No offense to Ukraine, it's just the politics of the situation and the world ties it holds vs those of fellow NATO powers.
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