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Only equatable if you believe homosexuality to be criminal. I think you'll need to start another thread for that. But you ignore my Jim Crow premise. You also speak of PC as taught, ignoring the fact that good manners and empathy for others are also taught. At least, that's what I successfully imparted to my kids.
Skyfloating
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
Replace words such as "Gay" with "Mafia" and you have "You have no choice but to do Business with the Mafia".
Thats where this is leading. You will return to this thread in 20 years and agree...but by then the thread will have been removed as a thought-crime.
But they are not mutually exclusive
Skyfloating
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
Good Manners and PC are two different things.
Well, much of that was courtesy of your Civil Rights Act, which would fall under your definition of imposition of values by the government, would it not? In fact, I'm pretty sure the same 'sky is falling' arguments were heard at that time, too.
As for racial discrimination: I think its good we got rid of school segregation or habitually calling other-coloured people derogatory names. I disagree with you that thats thanks to PC.
Skyfloating
reply to post by JuniorDisco
I must have provided at least 10 examples of PC in my OP...none of which you have actually yet addressed.
It explains why various European schools have banned Christian crosses from being displayed, but have allowed muslim headscarfs and prayer rooms. It explains why prayers have been banned from many schools, but Hindu Yoga lessons, Buddhist Meditation sessions and Muslim Prayer Rooms are being "integrated".
JohnnyCanuck
Well, much of that was courtesy of your Civil Rights Act, which would fall under your definition of imposition of values by the government, would it not? In fact, I'm pretty sure the same 'sky is falling' arguments were heard at that time, too.
TheToastmanCometh
-hits the big red NOPE button-
JuniorDisco
Literally exactly the same argument was made for why apartheid South Africa was fine and dandy.
JuniorDisco
You don't even bother to give one of your isolated examples for this. It's just an assertion.
Skyfloating
This thread provides a good example of the totalitarian future that awaits us. 9 out of 10 posters approve of me not being able to choose who I do Business with.
JohnnyCanuck
]Well, much of that was courtesy of your Civil Rights Act, which would fall under your definition of imposition of values by the government, would it not? In fact, I'm pretty sure the same 'sky is falling' arguments were heard at that time, too.
blupblup
Actually no, the LAW does.... equality before the law, that's all it's about.
If you want to change the law, vote somebody in who will do that, otherwise ALL business owners have to abide by the law.
And it's the law of the UK I might add.
Skyfloating
So if I own a shop of antique vases and I won't allow drunken brawlers to enter my shop, the law requires me to let them enter?
No need to reply...
Skyfloating
JuniorDisco
Literally exactly the same argument was made for why apartheid South Africa was fine and dandy.
Neither the civil rights movement nor the end of apartheid have anything whatsoever to do with PC. They are a result of progress in civil rights and democracy.
Skyfloating
JuniorDisco
You don't even bother to give one of your isolated examples for this. It's just an assertion.
After writing three threads on the subject, each having numerous OP-posts brim full with references, sources, examples, citations, I`ll allow myself to sit back and relax a little. If you have objections to what has been referenced and presented in the three OPs of this thread or the OPs of previous threads in this series, feel free to pick them apart with references, documentation and citations of your own. Thus far you have provided no documentation whatsoever in support of your notion that PC has advanced society and mankind.
Skyfloating
JohnnyCanuck
]Well, much of that was courtesy of your Civil Rights Act, which would fall under your definition of imposition of values by the government, would it not? In fact, I'm pretty sure the same 'sky is falling' arguments were heard at that time, too.
It is good if the Government bans hateful ACTION.
Its nonsense to try to ban hateful THINKING.
Thats the whole anti-PC argument in Summary.