Nikola Tesla claimed Alien contact

a reply to: AlienView

What Tesla mistakenly refers to as a core that he sensed was his way of describing the tight spaceless clustering effect of the fourth dimension.

originally posted by: Godhead
a reply to: AlienView

What Tesla mistakenly refers to as a core that he sensed was his way of describing the tight spaceless clustering effect of the fourth dimension.

Or, he was talking about the remains of his lunch time apple.

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Godhead
a reply to: AlienView

What Tesla mistakenly refers to as a core that he sensed was his way of describing the tight spaceless clustering effect of the fourth dimension.

Or, he was talking about the remains of his lunch time apple.

Or, he was talking to the remains of his apple.

Harte

The extraterrestrial Messages of Nikola Tesla

Tesla believed he received alien messages at the end of the nineteenth century
It is not a secret that there are numerous inventions of Tesla that have been attributed to other “inventors”, among these inventions are the radio and the first machine capable of searching for extraterrestrial life. The FBI seized documents including numerous inventions that were way ahead of Teslas time, possible secret technology, including a version of its famous wireless transmitter that could send radio waves focused to distant points of the solar system.

While Tesla’s genius is indisputable, some people question whether his mind became delusional at some option. What is true is that Tesla was interested, throughout his life, in developing technology to contact extraterrestrial intelligence and believed that, at least in one occasion, he had detected an alien signal.

Since 1896, Tesla believed that a version of his famous wireless transmitter could be used to contact intelligent beings on other planets. In the summer of 1899, while working in his laboratory in Colorado Springs, Tesla believed to have observed a series of numerical codes in cosmic radio signals, which he interpreted as a sign of intelligence that originated from pants inside our solar system. But is it possible that Tesla did in fact receive an extraterrestrial message? If so where did it come from?

Tesla was asked by the Red Cross to predict man’s greatest possible achievement over the next century. The letter below was his reply.

A much-needed transcript follows............

(Source: Tesla Society; Image: Tesla at work, via.)

Source:
www.ancient-code.com...

Of course some things do not change - Tesla had to deal with the same type of blockheads back then as the ones of today.
And it is a wonder of sorts that in spite of these blockheads progress goes on

"I believe alien life is quite common in the universe, although intelligent life is less so.
Some say it has yet to appear on planet Earth."
-Stephen Hawking


"I am absolutely certain that they are not caused by anything terrestrial..." (N. Tesla)

a reply to: AlienView

What you first have to ask yourself is, is it physically possible for Tesla to HAVE received 'cosmic radio signals' with the equipment of his day?

Start with 'what actually makes it through the ionosphere' and go from there.

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: AlienView

What you first have to ask yourself is, is it physically possible for Tesla to HAVE received 'cosmic radio signals' with the equipment of his day?

Start with 'what actually makes it through the ionosphere' and go from there.

The contact[s] were made with his inventions - Ultimately he won a long legal battel with Marconi and is now considered the inventor of wireless radio - But the invention he used to make the alien contact some are so eager to dispute and the diagrams of its construction probably no longer exist - But from a modern inventor in the same article quoted above here are two more quoutes:

In 1937, Nikola Tesla said: n 1937, he announced:
“I have devoted much of my time during the year past to the perfecting of a new small and compact apparatus by which energy in considerable amounts can now be flashed through interstellar space to any distance without the slightest dispersion.” (New York Times, Sunday, 11 July 1937.)

Interestingly, In the 1970’s L.G. Lawrence (field manager of the Ecola Institute) revealed a communication with Extraterrestrial Beings:

“On October 29, 1971… while conducting exploratory RBS [Remote Biological Sensing] experiments in Riverside County, CA, our field instrumentation’s organic transducers complex intercepted a train of apparently intelligent communication signals (tight spacing and discrete pulse intervals) while accidentally allowed to remain pointed at the constellation Ursa Major during a short rest period. The phenomenon prevailed for somewhat over 33 minutes….

“A somewhat similar phenomenon was observed on April 10, 1972…. The apparent signals, aside from seemingly growing weaker, appear to be transmitted at great intervals ranging from weeks to months, possibly years. A faint, coherent , binary-type phenomenon was noted during aural monitoring…. Intervals between rapid series of pulse trains ranged from… 3 to 10 minutes…

"In the 1980’s engineer Greg Hodowanec was able to confirm some of Tesla’s claims based on his own theory of Rhysmonic Cosmology while experimenting with a Gravity Wave Detector (GWD) of his own design. By 1988, Hodowanec stated that “…Such signals are being received today with simple modern-day scalar-type signal detectors… coherent modulations are being ‘heard’ in [the microwave] background radiation. The most prominent modulations being three pulses (code S) slightly separated in time, a la Tesla! On occasions, the code equivalents of an E, N, A, or K, are also heard, but the most persistent response is SE, SE, etc......."
Source of quotes:
www.ancient-code.com...

What more can you ask for? An alien philosopher telling you Human inteligence is not significant and hardly worh communicating with? - Many Humans themselves have made that claim - Hence the fascination with aliens

Most DONT want to believe.
and most of the rest dont want you to Know!

a reply to: AlienView

You really have to start with - what did Tesla have available to him, what was the radio receiver of the day like, what did they NOT have that we take for granted now, and what sorts of signals make it through the ionosphere.

If not, then you'll post a lot of drivel about scalar waves and home made gravity wave detectors. Like that.

Also, it would help if you looked at the wireless radio he DID invent, so you can sort of separate the actual from the fantastic. Because the next thing in the discussion, should you be inclined to inform yourself of the limiting factors I've posted, will be 'It's Tesla...he could have invented ANYTHING' and it becomes inseparable from a creationist sort of argument that ends with "goddidit" as the punch line.

If you don't understand even basics about radio and the history of radio engineering, it sounds a lot more plausible to YOU than it does to ME. By finding these things out, you'll see for yourself.

originally posted by: buddha
Most DONT want to believe.
and most of the rest dont want you to Know!

The really great thing about spark gap era radio is that belief is not necessary. And knowledge is available to all. You do have to have intent and perseverance, though, which is harder to do than just say 'tesladidit'.

Tesla made a lot of new things.
he came to know they ARE out to get him.
what secrets did the Gov steel on his death?

do you not agree if the government new
aliens existed they would keep it a secret?

so if Tesla made a radio that lets people listen to them.
they would do All they could to keep it a secret!

originally posted by: buddha
Tesla made a lot of new things.

Tesla was also nuts.

so if Tesla made a radio that lets people listen to them...

Again, the same set of questions to you that I posed to AlienView. What sorts of signals get through the ionosphere? What sort of radios did Tesla have access to?

What sort of radios did Tesla design? Are they far far advanced over the current science of the day? What do we have that Tesla did not?

When you know that, you'll have a better set of tools to analyze the claims.

BTW, Tesla didn't believe the ionosphere existed. Nor did he think that nuclear power was possible. He was not correct on many things. Like the effects of x-rays on his head.

originally posted by: buddha
Tesla made a lot of new things.
he came to know they ARE out to get him.
what secrets did the Gov steel on his death?

do you not agree if the government new
aliens existed they would keep it a secret?

so if Tesla made a radio that lets people listen to them.
they would do All they could to keep it a secret!

You notice buddha I tell them exactly how he dit it HOW THEY ARE DOING IT NOW, whose doing it and the type of data that has been collected - and suddenly they can't read - they see only what they want to see and nothing else exists

Of course if you want to be a cynical alien conspiracy theorist you may conclude that 'they' work for the people who want to keep the aliens to themselves - or better sitll maybe they are the aliens.

originally posted by: AlienView

originally posted by: buddha
Tesla made a lot of new things.
he came to know they ARE out to get him.
what secrets did the Gov steel on his death?

do you not agree if the government new
aliens existed they would keep it a secret?

so if Tesla made a radio that lets people listen to them.
they would do All they could to keep it a secret!

You notice buddha I tell them exactly how he dit it HOW THEY ARE DOING IT NOW, whose doing it and the type of data that has been collected - and suddenly they can't read - they see only what they want to see and nothing else exists

Of course if you want to be a cynical alien conspiracy theorist you may conclude that 'they' work for the people who want to keep the aliens to themselves - or better sitll maybe they are the aliens.

Well, what we "see" is someone typing words on an internet forum.

What is it you've shown us, "exactly," other than the fact you can type words in English?

Or, do you suppose people are stupid enough to simply conclude that, since you wrote it on an internet form, well it must be true?

What's been cited concerning these claims is a book, not written by Tesla, purporting to relay information from Tesla's "lost journal."

Is there any reason to believe that author got hold of a journal that was "lost?"

I gotta tell you, there's not.

Please quote a legitimate record of Tesla claiming to have spoken with aliens. Aliens which, as I've already stated (See, Buddha? They're not listening to me!) turned out to be pulsars.

I've not forgotten your attempted straw man concerning "the claim by the skeptics." I suspect you know very little indeed about this particular subject.

Harte

a reply to: Bedlam

Tesla was also nuts.



How many patients do you own

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Bedlam

Tesla was also nuts.

How many patients do you own

Will we now deny the insanity of Tesla, the prototype, no, actually the archetype of the "Mad Scientist" meme?

Will we have to drag in the evidence of his mental condition?

You won't like it, I assure you.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

en.wikipedia.org...


radio, television, AC electricity, Tesla coil, fluorescent lighting, neon lighting, radio control devices, robotics, x-rays, radar, microwaves

Genius is often flawed harte , i do not think anyone will remember us in 50 or a hundred years

originally posted by: AlienView

You notice buddha I tell them exactly how he dit it HOW THEY ARE DOING IT NOW, whose doing it and the type of data that has been collected - and suddenly they can't read - they see only what they want to see and nothing else exists

Puh-lease. "Rhysmonic cosmology"? "The Ecola Institute"? Purest bull#.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Bedlam

Tesla was also nuts.

How many patients do you own

I don't own any sick people at all.

You DO know that he was off his rocker, right? Have you read any biographies of Tesla? Even that Cheney book admits it. On top of which, there's some possibility he killed his brother when they were kids. At the end, he was talking to birds. He swore that white light was shining out of their eyes.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Harte

radio, (yes)

television, (a lie by Tesla - after others had done it, he claimed to have thought about inventing something that would display his thoughts, Teslaphiles claim that is the invention of TV, but in fact, Tesla never documented anything like television in his notes, nor did he claim it until he saw one working)

AC electricity, (another lie - he did not invent AC. He invented a more efficient AC motor. It was not the first one. Nor did he invent the transformer or the alternator)

Tesla coil, (yes)

fluorescent lighting, (nope, Heinrich Geissler)

neon lighting, (nope, Georges Claud)

radio control devices, (Tesla likely stole this from John Hammond, who had built something years earlier and worked with Tesla)

robotics, (possibly ctesibius, but certainly DaVinci)

x-rays, (Roentgen)

radar, (Hertz)

microwaves (Tesla never would have managed this given his equipment)

Tesla was a great showman. He was a genius. He was also prone to claim other people's inventions as his own. And, back to the thread, the same questions to you:

1) what sort of signals can make it through the ionosphere?
2) given the technology available to Tesla, as demonstrated by his radio patents and notes, what sort of issues would he have had?
3) what did Tesla NOT have that would come about in the first decade of the 1900s?

People look at radio now, and think that's the way it was all the way back. But there are qualitative changes that happened in the 1900s. And you have to know what it would take for Tesla to receive signals from outer space. When you understand the issues, you won't believe it anymore.

a reply to: Bedlam

Maybe if I put it in bold you''ll read it - Here is part of what I quoted above:

"In the 1980’s engineer Greg Hodowanec was able to confirm some of Tesla’s claims based on his own theory of Rhysmonic Cosmology while experimenting with a Gravity Wave Detector (GWD) of his own design. By 1988, Hodowanec stated that “…Such signals are being received today with simple modern-day scalar-type signal detectors… coherent modulations are being ‘heard’ in [the microwave] background radiation. The most prominent modulations being three pulses (code S) slightly separated in time, a la Tesla! On occasions, the code equivalents of an E, N, A, or K, are also heard, but the most persistent response is SE, SE, etc......."

Source of quotes:
www.ancient-code.com...







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