Mass Shooting Prevented - Student Disarms Gunman…Gets Suspended?

An excellent example of the level of institutional irrationality that has gripped this nation.

The steps necessary to address this situation are obvious:

1.) Fire the principal
2.) Give the students who saved lives awards and commendations for bravery
3.) Eliminate all policies that would lead to any student being punished for heroism

The fact that these steps are not taken in these kinds of situations is proof that TPTB want sheep, not citizens.

bet that kid would feel a bit different if him trying to wrestle the gun away had gotten the other guy killed... chances are the guy with the gun would never have pulled the trigger if left be.

reply to post by seabag


Of course he got suspended. If he hadn't interferred with another possible mass shooting the anti-gun discussion could have gotten the final boost it needs to pass Congress and we would now be discussing a handgun ban!

"We would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids!"

reply to post by cartesia


Seriously? That's your argument?

Incredibly bad stretch, ignorance, or a pathetic troll. Take your pick.

Perhaps the Local Police Department could have an award ceremony for the kid....bypassing the school district.

Perhaps the Local Police Department could have an award ceremony for the kid....bypassing the school district.

Originally posted by cartesia
bet that kid would feel a bit different if him trying to wrestle the gun away had gotten the other guy killed... chances are the guy with the gun would never have pulled the trigger if left be.

edit on 4-3-2013 by cartesia because: (no reason given)

Wow that has to be one of the most idiotic statements I have ever heard.... Lets see kid has LOADED gun pointing at another kid threatening to kill him with it yeah lets wait around and see if he really means it... Geeze what is wrong with you? Someone points a gun at you or anyone else and threatens to kill you/them you have no choice but to assume he means it and take what ever action you can to stop him. You think the police wait around to see it you mean it if you point a gun at them... Sigh!

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Tw0Sides

 

Your title is a Tad Misleading.

Its not the Title of the News Story, so why the Drama?

I agree with you btw, Just dont understand the Need to Hype the Story , thus demeaning it, with Lies.

A kid had a loaded gun at school and was threatening to use it.

He was physically disarmed.

The kids who disarmed him were suspended.

Sounds like my title!!

Mass Shooting Prevented - Student Disarms Gunman…Gets Suspended?

I agree 100%!

Some people here just have another agenda tho. And that is to attempt to discredit anything from a strong member of ATS. Believe me, I've seen it and been on the receiving end as well.

Great thread Seabag. !

Peace

Good for the student for disarming a potential threat. Lucky he wasn't shot himself.

um.... for all the principal knew. or anyone...
the kids who disarmed him may have been in a rival gang of the one with the gun.
the one who disarmed him could have incited the drawing of a weapon to begin with.

we hear about street violence all the time. i dont see anyone high fiv'ing one black teenager for putting down another one that was also armed. you all look at the situation as if its street on street violence then who cares.
this technically was no different.
you investigate into the issue yeah, but everyone involved must be removed from school until results.
and i guarantee you, you wont hear the positive results follow up story. no, they establishment=evil porn'ed you all for the day and you got what you wanted to see.

edit: see if i can explain my point again.
We dont know if the "heros" involved were even innocent at all. thus, the suspension for investigating.
this entire news article is another ploy to feed anti gun behavior. guns = ban guns = bad. nothing else matters. the violent minds, the gangs kids join, the drugs they sell and fight over. who cares. its all gunnnnssss and that is the only thing in the story we are to believe was criminally involved.

You just remove the students suspension and give the schools superintendant the suspension( with intent to dismiss). Surrounding the superintendant when they're leaving work and pelting them with garbage and hurling insults at them would also be acceptable.

I heard about this on the radio here. Certainly the information in the article points to the principle being in the wrong but according to what I heard on the radio there seems to be much more to this story. For one there remains the question of who actually brought the gun to school. There seems to be a question of whether the gun was brought by one of the students who helped stop the incident. Also there is a question of whether or not the other three knew that one of them had the gun throughout the day. So I believe there is more to this story than what has been presented.

I think I will wait until all the facts have come to light on this before passing judgment.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by seabag

 

Your title is a Tad Misleading.

Its not the Title of the News Story, so why the Drama?

I agree with you btw, Just dont understand the Need to Hype the Story , thus demeaning it, with Lies.

Uh I find the title fitting perfectly. A kid with a gun on a bus which contains atleast 20 kids that would fall into a mass shooting if he was to start shooting randomly. Student disarms gunman...yup that was pretty much covered and that's what happened. Gets suspended...yup that's what happened. So how is the title misleading again I didn't quite catch that?

But if you know your a psychic or something and can see the untold future or know exactly what would of happened by all means please carry on.

All I know is if this kid doesn't get some tail at his highschool after a heroic move like that, there's not only something wrong with the people in charge of the school but the people who go to it!

reply to post by Bisman

i dont see anyone high fiv'ing one black teenager for putting down another one that was also armed.

who says these boys aren't black teens ?

they haven't been identified, publicly.
if they are, it sure seems there are an awful lot of ppl high fiv'ing them, self included

what difference does their 'race' make ?
they did the right thing given the circumstances made public.

hmmm, high school football team, school bus, after school and a spill-over argument, yet, you get other 'criminal activites' out of that ?
interesting.

A mass shooting? Shame on you, same BS tactic the media uses.

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Bisman

 

i dont see anyone high fiv'ing one black teenager for putting down another one that was also armed.

who says these boys aren't black teens ?

they haven't been identified, publicly.
if they are, it sure seems there are an awful lot of ppl high fiv'ing them, self included

what difference does their 'race' make ?
they did the right thing given the circumstances made public.

hmmm, high school football team, school bus, after school and a spill-over argument, yet, you get other 'criminal activites' out of that ?
interesting.

maybe they were. i was comparing how this story is no different then the random gang shootings that america ignores in the news every day.
we dont know if these kids were really heroes, or "other" criminals who were just doing for themselves.
that is why the suspension is justified.

does 1 drug dealer shoot down another drug dealer and get rewarded for it?
half the people in this topic seem to think it applies.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by AndyMayhew

 

It’s not about how I define violent crime….this info was published in the UK’s DailyMail.

Well, I can assure you you're most definitely not going to be wanting to be setting much store by a source like the DailyMail. Most people in the UK wouldn't use it to shield their heads from the rain. The gods know considering the flimsiness (or non-existence) of some of its "sources", the newspaper itself would be just as unreliable.

Yea boy that how we do down here in Florida!!! I wouldnt even give a damn about the suspension Id have my middle finger up saying "# the World!!" and be proud in the fact that I actually took action to prevent an attack on liberty instead of cowring in the corner thinking of the consequences.

Sometimes you get suspended, sometimes you take a bullet, sometimes you lose a limb. But the net result is, lives will be saved when people take action!!!!!!

SEND THIS TO EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY AND REMIND THEM ACTION SAVES LIVES!!!!

reply to post by Bisman

fair enough, perhaps you should have said so ?
although, i don't see how this relates to gang activity.

yes, the media ignores it, Americans don't.

we don't know who these boys are so presuming such is a stretch, don't ya think ?

sorry, can't agree with a 'justified' suspension.

discharge from school premises during the investigation, sure, but a suspension, nope, can't agree with ya there.

don't know the 'drug dealer' culture so i can't really answer, but i'm pretty sure they don't reward their soldiers for disarming anyone