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Tunisians Protesting Mohammed Movie Attempt To Storm U.S. Embassy, Police Fire Tear Gas And Rubber Bullets To Disperse Protesters…

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Police on Wednesday fired tear gas to disperse hundreds of Salafist demonstrators outside the US embassy in Tunis gathered to condemn a film deemed offensive to Islam, an AFP photographer said.

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How many countries are we up to now that have shown a violent protest to this movie? Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and then the Taliban telling the religious leaders in Afghanistan to kill American soldiers in revenge.

I have to believe that these protest might not be so violent if we weren't so hated.

We backed this country during the Arab spring.

Whatever Obama and Clinton had hoped to achieve in the Middle East is not turning out well at all.

I hope it is noted that a response from the police to using tear gas and rubber bullets dispersed the crowds. If these attacks continue I hope we remember what it takes to stop them.

Romney outlines the failed policy:thecable.foreignpolicy.com...

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Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Whatever Obama and Clinton had hoped to achieve in the Middle East is not turning out well at all.

I wonder if they are puzzled by the fact that if you help fundamentalist Muslims to take over countries, then they act like fundamentalist Muslims?

Who could have predicted it.

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Oh quit insulting our intelligence. This is not about a film. If it was the entire arab world would be screaming but they aren't are they? No, this is about something else. The riots in Egypt and Libya were organized VIA social media outlets. The attack in Libya used the protest as cover according to some sources. The people protesting didn't have much of an idea what was going on.

So, short story: Find out who is inciting the riots and you will discover what is really going on. I think AQ has completely taken over these areas and they are the ones pulling the strings. If that's true then the entire war on terror was little more than a sad sham and utter failure.

I will go even further here, I think they achieved EXACTLY what they set out to do. It's so perfect a set up. People are going to get the war they have been crying for.

Originally posted by antonia
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Oh quit insulting our intelligence. This is not about a film. If it was the entire arab world would be screaming but they aren't are they? No, this is about something else. The riots in Egypt and Libya were organized VIA social media outlets. The attack in Libya used the protest as cover according to some sources. The people protesting didn't have much of an idea what was going on.

So, short story: Find out who is inciting the riots and you will discover what is really going on. I think AQ has completely taken over these areas and they are the ones pulling the strings. If that's true then the entire war on terror was little more than a sad sham and utter failure.

I will go even further here, I think they achieved EXACTLY what they set out to do. It's so perfect a set up. People are going to get the war they have been crying for.

edit on 12-9-2012 by antonia because: added a thought

Well put.

Is it really so hard to see.

The whole thing has been constructed. It could not be more obvious.

Originally posted by ollncasino
I wonder if they are puzzled by the fact that if you help fundamentalist Muslims to take over countries, then they act like fundamentalist Muslims?

Who could have predicted it.

Four more years!

Four more years!

Four more years!

Anyone know where the Tunisian, Egyptian, and Lybian Embassy's are here in the US?

Maybe we should find them and respond in kind!

ETA: I AM REALLY PISSED OFF!!!

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Whatever Obama and Clinton had hoped to achieve in the Middle East is not turning out well at all.

I wonder if they are puzzled by the fact that if you help fundamentalist Muslims to take over countries, then they act like fundamentalist Muslims?

Who could have predicted it.

And people wonder how prairie fires start....here, we get to see the political version of that process with our own eyes.

The Muslim Brotherhood will be fanning this one across the whole Middle East.....

Des

Do we not recall Russia's allegations that the unrest in the Middle East was all the result of Western manipulation?

Does it seem unreasonable then that some faction might turn the same tool and tactic against us? Our leaders are morons who actually believe themselves to be the smartest in the bunch..... this is where that hubris takes them (and regrettably us.)

Of course these people are not protesting a film... half of them (or more I wager) couldn't even tell you which film it is that they are protesting. They protest because they are told "we're" protesting... sort of like how we in America, and the West generally, were told how much the fundamentalists "hate us for our freedom" so we killed them and destroyed much of their cities.... because someone "said so."

This is a huge play... and thousands, if not millions, are being used to fulfill someone's idea of an exploitable situation.... it has been thus since the creation and subsequent consolidation of mass media. Sadly, these 'masterminds' are NEVER at risk.... or their inherent inbred cowardice would force them to return to the festering swamp from which they ooze.

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Romney outlines the failed policy:thecable.foreignpolicy.com...

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edit on 9/12/2012 by sad_eyed_lady because: (no reason given)

I find it OFFENSIVE that Romney has the balls to use this as a political tool. This has nothing to do with Obama's foreign policy and everything to do with religious extremism controlling idiots - much like the Republican party supports - as long as it's Christian extremism.

Romney has made his position on various subjects of foreign policy perfectly clear, and his have been generally accepted to be DANGEROUS, if not isolationist.

I don't like Obama, but the idea of an idiot like Romney - a man who would take the USA back to a cold war era at the drop of a hat, and who has made blunders to insult numerous countries - making such statements, it's just so outrageous it makes me feel ill!

The man should STFU and stop making himself look like a total and utter tard.

This is a minority of religious idiots being whipped up into a religious rage by their own dictators. They are fools for following their extremist puppet masters, and I believe that the vast majority of people in those nations are looking at their own extremists with utter shame and embarrassment.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Whatever Obama and Clinton had hoped to achieve in the Middle East is not turning out well at all.

I wonder if they are puzzled by the fact that if you help fundamentalist Muslims to take over countries, then they act like fundamentalist Muslims?

Who could have predicted it.

We used to know how to deal with this sort of thing.

Originally posted by Yngvarr

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Whatever Obama and Clinton had hoped to achieve in the Middle East is not turning out well at all.

I wonder if they are puzzled by the fact that if you help fundamentalist Muslims to take over countries, then they act like fundamentalist Muslims?

Who could have predicted it.

We used to know how to deal with this sort of thing.

No they didnt.

Saladin dealt with them.

Originally posted by freemarketsocialist

No they didnt.

Saladin dealt with them.

We did have more luck in Spain, Sicily, Corsica, Malta, Sardinia, Crete and Southern Europe.

Anyone know what "Movie" they are protesting? Does this "movie" even exist or did these fundamentalist Muslim nutjobs just make it up as an excuse?

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Why did this movie even get any attention to make it this far? Knowing part of the EA*RTH herd is sensitive to images of GOD or ALLAH as they know him by. Now a innocent man has been killed more hate energy added and somebodies laughing about upsetting the Islamic communities why TROOPS are over there smh.

Groups supposedly claim responsibility are indicated below along with the egyptian show which was supposedly the cause of the protest. Although the film/clip/trailer was released/produced around July. So 9/11 was definitely the chosen date and thus a pre-planned activity by someone.

BTW Drudge and other sites have the graphic images of the ambassador.
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I think it's possible that the Israeli Mossad paid an extremist group of Muslims to do these acts as punishment for Obama not playing ball with Netanyahu!

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It's a good thing to be passionate about important issues. Sometimes I find my passion is carrying me away, and slowing my thinking process. Is there a possibility you're experiencing the same thing? Let me tell you what I have in mind.

I find it OFFENSIVE that Romney has the balls to use this as a political tool. . . .The man should STFU and stop making himself look like a total and utter tard.

An attack on US soil, killing Americans, on 9/11, and you want him to STFU? Wouldn't that make him look out of touch and uncaring? (Insert joke here.) People have been asking him for something about his foreign policy, and he's not supposed to talk about it?

Just a small reminder, the article gives the words of Mr. Williamson, a Romney foreign policy advisor. If we hold hold Romney accountable for them, surely it's appropriate for Obama to be held responsible for the words of his ambassadors.

But leaving that aside, allow me to return to your statements for a moment.

his have been generally accepted to be DANGEROUS, if not isolationist.

Isolationist? Surely you meant some other word. Ron Paul is isolationist, they believe in withdrawing the military from most of the world and in having minimal dealings with foreign countries.

who has made blunders to insult numerous countries - making such statements

I have heard of two cases where some claimed he made blunders. One was over British security at the olympics and one about the Palestinians and their development. Have you others? Even if they were blunders, they are certainly much smaller than Obama's multiple insults to Britain and Israel.

This is a minority of religious idiots being whipped up into a religious rage by their own dictators.

So, it's government policy to inflame people and set them to destroying and killing others? Wouldn't those governments be overthrown by "the vast majority" in those countries? And are they ashamed and embarassed? Are there pro-American marches or proclamations? Are "the vast majority" of Imams and citizens condemning the protests? Or, is it a carefully worded note of "regret" from some government office?

But, back to the article and Obama's foreign policy. Certainly a legitimate subject of debate in an election year.

Williamson states:

The attacks Tuesday on two U.S. diplomatic posts were directly related to "the loss of American leadership and prestige throughout the Middle East because of the Obama administration's failed policies in that region,"

I think his position is reasonable enough to be discussed. Loss of American leadership and prestige" is not really that controversial. The "directly related" should be examined, though.

"The events in Egypt and Libya show the failure of the Egyptian and Libyan governments to uphold their obligations to keep our diplomatic missions safe and secure and the regard in which the United States is held under President Obama in these two countries," he said. "It's all part of a broader scheme of the president's failure to be an effective leader for U.S. interests in the Middle East."

Certainly the security failure is unquestionable. The loss of regard is mentioned above, but again, I think that could be discussed.

The Obama administration has failed to develop, much less communicate, a coherent or consistent approach to protecting American interests throughout the Arab Spring, Williamson argued.

If they have, I don't know what it is, and I don't think the world does either.

In Egypt, the Obama administration stood by Mubarak for too long, thereby alienating the revolutionaries and reducing U.S. capacity to influence the new government, Williamson argued. In Libya, the administration "led from behind" and was dragged into intervening by Britain and France, he said, and then failed to follow up sufficiently to support their transition to a stable democracy.

Many Americans said the same thing, at the time those events were occuring.

He also criticized Obama for not meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu while the Israeli prime minister is visiting the United States for the opening of the U.N. General Assembly.

That's also a pretty common complaint. There should be some explanation for it onther than "I just can't clear my schedule. It's packed full with important stuff, and I have to do what they tell me, I have no say."

In all, while I think I can understand your feelings, there were issues brought up that deserve serious, thoughtful discussion.

Originally posted by jaws1975
I think it's possible that the Israeli Mossad paid an extremist group of Muslims to do these acts as punishment for Obama not playing ball with Netanyahu!

Yes

Israel and Muslim extremist, now people are really stretching..........

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I find it OFFENSIVE that Romney has the balls to use this as a political tool.

Obama and Romney were both correct ... AND .. they were both wrong.

Obama flubbed this whole thing. Romney was absolutely correct about that. Romney took advantage of Obama screwing up and made the tragedy political. That was crass. But know what? Obama would have done the exact same thing if the roles were reversed. So .. both are correct, and both are wrong on this. IMHO.