Argentina is likely to reinvade the Falklands once Britain drops its guard

Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by mackey1224uk

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Germanicus

 

I've seen lots of people come and go over the years here on ATS.

You seem like an ok sort of guy and have come out with some thought provoking and challenging posts - so why are you also deliberately annoying and trying to wind people up?
That's a couple of times now that you have stated that you were trying to intentionally provoke people.

T&C prevent me from saying what I would like to.

He's a dirty bigoted troll. He's proved it wishing death to America and the UK. The more I read his replys the more his hatred began to show.

That personal attack is uncalled for. I have offered opposition to the majority. The thread has only three Flags(two now) yet it has alot of posters. Most of which have flammed me. Most however have had something to do with the topic. Do you not enjoy debate? I think its clear I was a pretty poor villian in this case. There are other posters that argued against Britan;s claim better than I did. Its good to have a villian,it allows you to make your point better if you ask me. I dont think its black and white still but I didnt offer much strong argument at all,and I acknowledged that.Others did better.

Am I not allowed to have an opinion? I do not troll. I am honest in what I say. And yes I hate the West. Is that such a shock? Really? When you are on ATS and the bulk of the threads are complaining about government? See I dont just like to talk a bunch of crap for fun and offer obvious tired opinions. I truly hate the Governments of the West and people like you that cheer them on. And I have a million reasons to feel that way.

You accuse me of being a troll,or "dirty troll' yet you contribute nothing. Purely a personal attack.

And whats with the "hatred began to show" ?? Do you love anything? It shocks me that you dont hate the West. That we all dont.

And I dont appreciate the insults at all.

Edit- Hey thanks guys. I tried really hard with that one.

edit on 13-4-2012 by Germanicus because: (no reason given)

That was no personal attack and I didnt insult you. This is what you said.

Originally posted by Germanicus

Yes. I want BRICS vs Imperial Empire.

I want America and Britain to die.

I want to live in a world where the BRICS control the Reserve Currency and dominate world affairs. It will be in our lifetimes.

You can hate the west all you want. I dont care. Its not my problem, its your's. With your statment above, You want war and you want me to die cause I live in the UK.
Who wants to debate someone when they want them to die?

reply to post by mackey1224uk

You want war and you want me to die cause I live in the UK.

I dont want you to die.

Death to the states.

But if it has to be war then Im not sentimental about human life. If war is the only thing that will stop Imperialism then I have no problem with people dying.

And when I say I want the death of America and Britan you can include the long list of countries that follow the US blindly into war. That would include Australia. Do I want me to die? No. Would I if it would end Imperialism? Yes,gladly.

But when you hear people say "Death to America" they refer to the State,not the entire population of its people.

I dont want you to die

Ok, im Argentino (Argentinean to u) we will never recover Malvinas (yeah Malvinas) its impossible to invade, we dont have military power, we even have less power than in 1982. The actual government is trying to cover other "things" with this Malvinas nonsense (like every other government). In my opinion they should be Argentinean, the people there decide? yeah... but WHO put those people there? its a big debate, one that shouldnt be of importance because like I said: ITS IMPOSSIBLE. We have better things to do here in Argentina, we have great natural resources that are currently being destroyed and the government goes for Malvinas??. I love my country, I also like England (lots of friends there).

reply to post by Germanicus


LONG live the States and all her people! Support Britan protect the Falklands!! Dont be so Jelly Brah dont you know China will be allies with the US in the next 15 years. You mad that your hopes and dreams will be nothing but dissipoint. I laugh at you SRS i really am lasughing at the fact that you made this rediculous thread without doing any fact checking. Deny Ignorance Brah SRS you look like a real fool and every post just makes it worse. Stop while you have the chance, the hole you digging is making you look like a totall Asehat.

SRS......NO really super SRS

reply to post by solids0be


Hey you made me laugh too

Im not sure I follow any of that but .......ummm

reply to post by Subsonic


Check your info Argentineand lived there, we even had governors (yeah well, we where not Argentina per se, we where an spanish colony going for our independence)

List of governors:

between 1767 and 1811, 20 governors:
Capitán de Navío D. Felipe Ruiz Puente, desde 1767 hasta 1773.
Capitán de Infantería D. Domingo de Chauri, nombrado Gobernador interino desde 1773 hasta 1774
Capitán de Fragata D. Francisco Gil y Lemos, desde 1774 hasta 1777.
Teniente de Navío D. Ramón de Carassa, Gobernador interino desde 1777 hasta 1779.
Teniente de Navío D. Salvador de Medina, desde 1779 hasta 1781.
Teniente de Fragata D. Jacinto de Altola-Guirre, desde 1781 hasta 1783.
Capitán de Navío D. Fulgencio D. Montemayor, desde 1783 hasta 1784.
Teniente de Navío D. Agustín Figueroa, desde 1784 hasta 1785.
Teniente de Fragata D. Pedro de Mesa y Castro, desde 1785 hasta 1786, desde 1786 hasta 1787, y desde 1788 hasta 1789.
Capitán de Fragata D. Ramón de Clairac, desde 1787 hasta 1788 y desde 1789 hasta 1790. En este segundo período como Capitán de Navío, desde Octubre de 1789.
Teniente de Navío D. Juan José Elizalde, desde 1790 hasta 1791 y desde 1792 hasta 1793.
Teniente de Navío D. Pedro Pablo Sanguineto, Gobernador en tres ocasiones, desde 1791 hasta 1792; ascendido a Capitán de Fragata desde el 8 de Septiembre de 1792, y con ese grado desde 1793 hasta 1794 y desde 1795 hasta 1796.
Teniente de Navío D. José de Aldana y Ortega, desde 1796 hasta 1797.
Capitán de Fragata D. Luis Medina y Torres, desde 1797 hasta 1798 y desde 1799 hasta 1800.
Capitán de Fragata D. Francisco Javier de Viana, desde 1800 hasta 1801.
Teniente de Navío D. Ramón Fernández de Villegas, desde 1801 hasta 1802.
Teniente de Navío D. Arturo Leal de Ibarra, desde 1803 hasta 1804 y desde 1805 hasta 1806.
Capitán de Fragata D. Bernardo Bonavia, desde 1802 hasta 1803, desde 1804 hasta 1805 y desde 1806 hasta 1808.
Primer piloto de la Real Armada D. Gerardo Bordas, durante 1809.
Segundo Piloto de la Real Armada D. Pablo Guillen, desde Enero de 1810 hasta Febrero de 1811.


I repeat, this is one of those nonsense discussions, endless.

I hope Argentina does invade. What right do the British have? Imperialists.

reply to post by Germanicus


Quite ridiculous. You don't like the "imperialists" but want Argentina to invade, yet still believe the Islanders should govern themselves. Quite messed up.

There is nothing Argentina can do. They have no military means to even put a large amount of men on the island.

Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by mackey1224uk

 

You want war and you want me to die cause I live in the UK.

I dont want you to die.

Death to the states.

But if it has to be war then Im not sentimental about human life. If war is the only thing that will stop Imperialism then I have no problem with people dying.

And when I say I want the death of America and Britan you can include the long list of countries that follow the US blindly into war. That would include Australia. Do I want me to die? No. Would I if it would end Imperialism? Yes,gladly.

But when you hear people say "Death to America" they refer to the State,not the entire population of its people.

I dont want you to die

Well, Im sorry you think I insulted you. That wasnt my intention.

I know what you mean and where youre coming from.

"super power" ? We have no air force , we have ONE good ship , no aircraft carriers , our troop numbers are falling , our government doesnt even think our fronline troops deserve human rights ......... Britannia does not rule the waves , England have become slaves.

reply to post by SnakeEater


We have dozens of ships with levels of armament and technology Argentina could only dream of.

We have 2 aircraft carriers, one of the largest air forces in the world. It really does show how far the cynicism of this country''s people, not to mention newspapers goes, when people think that "no air force" is actually favourable hyperbole.

It is folly to suggest we will ever take our eye off the ball as far as the Falklands goes.

reply to post by mackey1224uk


Hey no worries dude. Sorry I was so obnoxious.


And sorry OP for clogging your thread with off topic stuff.

reply to post by Germanicus


You give Hawaii back, and we'll give back the Falklands too. (sorry if you are not American)

reply to post by GLaDOS


Im Australian. Would you take Tasmania?

Germ is a troll, stop giving him attention.
He purposely takes the unpopular side of arguments and sticks with them.

Either way, he's going on ignore.

I would like to see them try!

I believe we have a type 45 destroyer down there which is more than capable of taking on their entire air-force and navy by itself.

Not to mention the subs, aircraft and troops stationed there...

France is only 21 miles away across the English channel.

Next time I do a booze run I shall claim their lands in the name of her majesty.

I think this video is apropiate fast foward to 3:08... retards wont like this

Originally posted by Gloster
I think this video is apropiate fast foward to 3:08... retards wont like this

Well it's a little off topic but the individual in that vid most definitely should have his license to live revoked!

reply to post by ollncasino


No Argentina will not attack the islands, this is just more propaganda from British media outlets to gather support for more defense funding in my opinion. Argentina does not have the ability nor funds to wage a war, they don't have much of a chance really and they know this.

As for whether the Falklands belong to Argentina? Life isn't fair. Britain claimed and settled on those islands long ago, Mexico lost California, China invaded Tibet, etc etc. You cannot define absolute fairness in history, it doesn't exist, the spoils of war belong to the victors and this the cold hard reality. That and the fact that I'm not aware of any native Falkland islanders prior to British settlers, this is something I'll continue to look into.

Originally posted by Germanicus
You are naive. Why would they be forming a Bank together?

With respect. Anyone can form a bank.

In the difficult history of India and China, one would wonder if either nation would en-shackle themselves to the other. Somehow, beyond the BRICS five star hotel conferences, I doubt either of these major competitors are entertaining either

(a) Dealing too closely with each other
(b) Losing their market share in the lucrative West

Originally posted by Germanicus
And it doesnt end there. There are so many other countries that hate America openly and officially and others behind closed doors. Even America's friends dont like them much.

Yawn. Like a looped tape. Yet the BRICS would still be impoverished backward nations if it was not for the markets of “the West”. I think you should travel to the BRICS and you will see the folly of your position. You will see queues of people leaving to get the Europe and the “hated” America.

Regards