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The Emerging Irrelevance of the United States

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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:19 PM
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The U.S. is done. As a leader, we are finished. As a magnet for investment, the polarity has shifted. As a beacon for liberty, the light went out and left the land dark.
And cold.
We are spent, like a young adolescent with too many porn magazines, or too many video games. Our day is done. We have nothing left to give.
We have no vision, we traded it for cheap thrills that we always expect we can buy. We know nothing really about anything real, other than where to get what we want right now.
The world be damned. We don't care.
We have no moral compass that guides us. We cannot respect our leaders, we are not allowed to. And, we really have no good reason to.
We are born into a family that doesn't even know itself, or where it came from. Our identity has never really been revealed to us, or we never really had one. Perhaps, it has been stolen. But, we don't have the capacity to know the difference anyway.
So, what does it matter?
We are finished.
History may or may not be kind to us. We have no control over that because we have no relevance. We no longer write the story that portrays us in a light that we like, our story has been written and will be told by others.
We are groveling at the feet of fate, but we don't even know what the hell that means.
We are irrelevant. Get used to it. Adapt.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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ha maybe one day. but unfortunately for earth, america is still running the show



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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We are born into a family that doesn't even know itself, or where it came from.


We have two family reunions a year..............My great aunt dug up our family history and we go way back from the 1600's.........I am proud of that........

You need to find something to be proud of..............

Lj01 senses a little depression......

Keep your chin up...............



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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reply to post by SurrealisticPillow
 
I expect this to be thrown into the rant section, but I felt it respected a reply.

You are right in many regards. But. . . .

We have the potential to be so much more. If only we started trying again. If only we started inventing, creating again.

America has forgotten what it was like to lead.
Now we follow.

America has forgotten what it was like to create.
Now we purchase.

But we can remember again.

I still have hope.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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reply to post by biggmoneyme
 

Yes, but the show is about war and destruction, not about what America anything great.
Soon, we will destroy ourselves, just watch.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Unfortunately the signs have been there for a long time, people just have their head buried or are too busy swallowing their daily dose of MSM.

Nov. 29 2011


Earlier this month, our U.S. debt hit the $15 trillion mark – or more than 101% of our GDP. That’s more than enough to count the U.S. as an empire in decline.


Beyond debt, we also have many of the other classic signs of a flailing empire including an overworked military, a widening gap between our wealthy and impoverished, increasing inflation, and a government that continues to spend.


And there’s a viable threat to the dollar’s supremacy in Asia. It’s the rise of the Asian market and the internationalization of China’s currency, the yuan.


I think Einstein was wrong, the next war won't be nuclear, it will be fought with banks.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Thank you.
I am not really depressed. In fact, I think I may have saved at least one persons life tonight. But, that is not the point, and this is not about me.
I see so many people that are quite content with mediocrity. So many people that are not yearning to learn. So many people that don't CARE to learn, or grow.
I keep up with international news, and we are being left behind and we don't even know it.
Yes, people fear us...what a legacy.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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reply to post by beezzer
 

Beezzer, I don't know what it is going to take.
I mean, do you actually feel what I am talking about? Yes, I would love for our brothers and sisters to break out and start participating in developing new inventions that make life better for people.
We should be progressing into free energy, and cheaper travel, and truly safe and healthy foods. But, we are leading the world back into the dark ages.
The lights are going out, how many of us can keep the lights on?



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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I see so many people that are quite content with mediocrity. So many people that are not yearning to learn. So many people that don't CARE to learn, or grow.


I know exactly where you are coming from.........

My family is a good example of this...........they keep working that dead end job and barely get by..........

I am 32 and I just passed my 7 month mark with a local union....I took their apprentice test after two years of college welding...........The trade that I am in was not even what I went to school for......

Antways I am rambling on and I really wanted to say that the classes are full.............a good portion of people (such as myself) got tired of it and decided to do something about it.........so far I cannot complain..... I work my but off and get a decent paycheck every week(for now)........

Change is up to you....... stop worrying what everybod else thinks.........



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by beezzer
 

Beezzer, I don't know what it is going to take.
I mean, do you actually feel what I am talking about? Yes, I would love for our brothers and sisters to break out and start participating in developing new inventions that make life better for people.
We should be progressing into free energy, and cheaper travel, and truly safe and healthy foods. But, we are leading the world back into the dark ages.
The lights are going out, how many of us can keep the lights on?


I feel your frustration, your anger. Hell. I experience it as well. I can't tell you the countless times I've wanted to emigrate or renounce citizenship! But what keeps me back is the potential. The fact that we have the ability to be so much more than what we are.
You or I will never convince the populace to change.

We'll just have to be the change ourselves if we're going to see this through.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Losing influence? Yes.
Losing economic power? Yes
Moving toward irrelevance? That's just naive.

Not only will the US never be irrelevant if only because of its stategic location, you are also ignoring the fact that the economy is now global. No world power is or can be irrelevant. All economies are symbiotic. The US is very relevant in that if its economy fails, so does the world.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by biggmoneyme
 

Yes, but the show is about war and destruction, not about what America anything great.
Soon, we will destroy ourselves, just watch.



the system will destroy itself. And lots of people could die from that. but america will move on. we are not a government, we're not an economic system, we're nothing like that. We're a group of people, a family from my perspective



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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reply to post by liejunkie01
 

You are working to make a difference, that is good.
I am doing the same, but I am much older, not that it matters so much. I am not preaching, I just think we all have to do a bit more. Be a little braver, and change a bad system.
If you know what I mean.



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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reply to post by captaintyinknots
 

Respectfully, I disagree.
We may very well be Africa within a decade or so. In fact, we may very well look UP to Africa.
Military might is nothing in the big picture. Like muscle, it ages. The youth are the future of a nation. Take a look at the youth, not at the number of nuclear weapons we have or our "strategic" position.
Africa has a strategic position.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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In a few years the US will hand the reins of Economic Super Power to the Chinese, but will probably remain the Number 1 Military Power for a lot longer .

I don't think the Chinese will be as stupid to spend so much on Military.

Good news is the US will remain a Major player, on the global scene, as Great Britain remained will they passed the torch.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 

Respectfully, I disagree.
We may very well be Africa within a decade or so. In fact, we may very well look UP to Africa.
Military might is nothing in the big picture. Like muscle, it ages. The youth are the future of a nation. Take a look at the youth, not at the number of nuclear weapons we have or our "strategic" position.
Africa has a strategic position.


1)there is no way the US becomes africa in the foreseeable future. There is no comparison there.
2)military power is very important on the global scale. Our youth is one of the main reasons for that. I don't mean to come off as rude, but your statement sounds like someone withh no knowledge of geo-politics.
3)africa, again, is not comparable, when speaking of strategic position. North america is unique from any other continent in the world, and yes, that matters.
4)you still ignore the economic relevance of EVERY major nation in the world.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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Rant might have been a better place for this. There are problems in America and the next great American will be the person who solves those problems.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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I'll agree with Beezer on this one. We are resiliant as a people. .

We create things as a nation and people.

We can retool. ( I'm helping work on it)

Having said that, can you really blame the world for our political and combative miscalculations in forign countries for disliking us?

Don't throw in a politcal canditate who can correct this and why next election.

Plus or minus 4 years ain't gonna correct this debacle.

We have to learn how to adjust better to change, without overreacting as a nation.

And then have me as the ruler of the world and we'll all get along better I think.
Just sayin.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 03:29 AM
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We are still the largest economy
Largest source of capital
Largest source of technological advancement
Supreme military power
World reserve currency

We are declining in relation to the World.. but so far our greatest rival, the EU, has fallen flat on its face.. so, for the meantime .. the USA is not irrelevant.



posted on Jan, 29 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. Wait...is it politically correct to say fat lady?

It ain't over until the obese woman sings. Wait...is it politically correct to say obese woman?

It ain't over until the wide width person of a female gender sings.

Sigh.



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