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Originally posted by Celestial1
Easy solution, nobody has to say anything they dont believe in. If you don't believe in God then just don't say that part you could say
Originally posted by Kingbreaker
This country was founded, by men who believed very much in the christian god.
Originally posted by randomname
your belief or disbelief on God, doesn't alter His existence. if you don't want to pledge allegiance to a country under God, then omit the last part, and pledge your allegiance to a nation not under God.
Originally posted by MrFake
I wonder how many atheists use the phrase "oh my God"
In all seriousness though, this argument is two sides of the same coin. "I believe in God, so keep it in there!" and "I don't believe in God, remove it!" It's easiest to just keep it in there. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by randomname
your belief or disbelief on God, doesn't alter His existence. if you don't want to pledge allegiance to a country under God, then omit the last part, and pledge your allegiance to a nation not under God.
as a matter of fact, pledging allegiance to america is not a law and no one is forcing you to do so.
this thread is more of an attack against God, than pledging allegiance to a country. there are many ways to pledge allegiance, you don't have to recite something somebody else wrote.
you can pledge allegiance to your country in your own words without focusing on one phrase, that is completely making you miss the entire point and spirit of the pledge.
i don't see the whole point of this thread, other than a typical atheist's hatred to something they think supposedly doesn't exist.
hating and getting angry at something that doesn't exist makes you insane. so maybe you should use that as a clue and the feelings that God rises out of you as to whether He exists or not.
edit on 26-6-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by newcovenant
Maybe they are right to do so and in this case UNDER GOD SHOULD BE REMOVED.
Originally posted by Pervius
This is the exact same time King James made a speech to Parliament declaring HE was a GOD as well and everyone had to bow before him.
Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Originally posted by newcovenant
Maybe they are right to do so and in this case UNDER GOD SHOULD BE REMOVED.
Especially when they don't define it.
The term "god" could easily apply to any entity. It does not automatically mean a benevolent one.
Define it, or remove it.