Rand Paul "The Senate Majority Leader Came To The Floor And Attacked Me!"

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What in government, why so they can get BJ's in the oval office, like last time...

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Huh? I'm not for the government when it acts like this, and if I recall the Gov wasn't too fond of the hippies and their movement

I agree with Sen. Rand Paul; and the reasoning behind requiring a person by oath or affirmation, to seek a judge to issue warrants which invade privacy and the very things the Bill of Rights protect, as the "RIGHT of a person to be secure in their persons and homes;" and is "no-sauce" for the goose or gander. But protects US, in more ways than one.

You see, when a law as the "Patriot Act," by-passes reasonable avenues to secure freedoms, which by right are guaranteed, in the Bill of Rights, it distorts the "living intent" and subverts people's rights. To with-hold the "secretive workings" of the act which allows investigations of people into personal records and effects in their own homes and person, surely flies-in-the-face of "good faith." And violates the public trust in a "Right," which is guaranteed.

The "propaganda" which promotes the "Patriot Act," as something keeping us all safe, not only injures countless millions, guaranteed of a "Right," is not only shameful, and another side-effect is the "Patriot Act" actually removes a person or persons participation in-keeping the country safe by civic involvement.

This "Act," steps-in and covertly infringes upon a "Right," guaranteed and goes even further to crumble the inalienable status given by God.

When politicians are able to enact laws designed to protect by limiting or removing altogether, no doubt should remain in a reasonable person's mind whether they have lost a fundamental right or not.

Do we work hard and follow the "equitable and honored rules and protocols" established as an inalienable "Right," by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, or subscribe to propaganda and peer-pressure of being labeled "unpatriotic?"

When it all is brought into the light, everyone can plainly "see" that it stinks to high-heaven and should be removed and replaced or edited with sensible framing which preserves guaranteed rights; and I think a vast majority will agree with this stance.

The "Paranoid Patriot Act," must be looked-at and the offensive portions removed. It's "Our" Right, after-all, and as the light of it all comes into day, the acknowledgement of such inalienable rights negate anything to the contrary.

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reply to post by Skewed

If we are, why not start attending these sessions on behalf of the American people and start speaking up either backing certain politicians or throwing others under the bus. If they will not listen any other way, why not just invite ourselves onto their playground.

Because you will be silence immediately, end up in the hospital where you will then be arrested:

...CODEPINK activist Rae Abileah was arrested at the George Washington University Hospital in Washington D.C. after heckling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to the anti-war group.

The 28-year-old Jewish American woman was allegedly tackled by members of the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) during Netanyahu's speech to Congress after she yelled, "stop Israeli war crimes."

Abileah was taken to the George Washington University Hospital, where she was being treating for neck and shoulder injuries.

"You know I take it as a badge of honor, and so should you, that in our free societies that you can have protest," Netanyahu said after being interrupted by Abileah. "You can't have these protest in the farcical parliaments in Tehran or in Tripoli. This is real democracy."

Speaking from her hospital bed, Abileah said she was in "great pain"... www.rawstory.com...

This kind of behavior in the Legislature is not only unforgiveable, but completely out of line. Fillibustering is a tradition that goes way back, many legislators have used it as a tool to prevent bad legislation from going through. To be attacked for using the same tools everyone else uses seems to be to be unamerican. Patriotism is what our country was built on, and what it thrives on. Patriots are not terrorists, unamerican or any other derogatory remark one can think up. I know I was taught that being patriotic was a good thing...My how times have changed.....

Peace!
SK

From Vitchilo's Thread - Senate votes to extend Patriot Act's roving wiretaps, records search

Originally posted by Vitchilo

Traitors all those who voted for it.

Here they are:
Democrats Voting 'Aye'
Sen. Daniel Akaka [D, HI], Sen. Max Baucus [D, MT], Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO], Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D, CT], Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA], Sen. Sherrod Brown [D, OH], Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D, MD], Sen. Robert Casey [D, PA], Sen. Kent Conrad [D, ND], Sen. Chris Coons [D, DE], Sen. Richard Durbin [D, IL], Sen. Al Franken [D, MN], Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY], Sen. Thomas Harkin [D, IA], Sen. Daniel Inouye [D, HI], Sen. John Kerry [D, MA], Sen. Amy Klobuchar [D, MN], Sen. Herbert Kohl [D, WI], Sen. Frank Lautenberg [D, NJ], Sen. Carl Levin [D, MI], Sen. Joe Manchin [D, WV], Sen. Robert Menéndez [D, NJ], Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D, MD], Sen. Patty Murray [D, WA], Sen. Bill Nelson [D, FL], Sen. Ben Nelson [D, NE], Sen. Mark Pryor [D, AR], Sen. John Reed [D, RI], Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV], Sen. John Rockefeller [D, WV], Sen. Debbie Ann Stabenow [D, MI], Sen. Mark Warner [D, VA], Sen. Jim Webb [D, VA], Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D, RI]

Republicans Voting 'Aye'
Sen. Lamar Alexander [R, TN], Sen. Kelly Ayotte [R, NH], Sen. John Barrasso [R, WY], Sen. John Boozman [R, AR], Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA], Sen. Richard Burr [R, NC], Sen. Saxby Chambliss [R, GA], Sen. Daniel Coats [R, IN], Sen. Thomas Coburn [R, OK], Sen. Thad Cochran [R, MS], Sen. Susan Collins [R, ME], Sen. Bob Corker [R, TN], Sen. John Cornyn [R, TX], Sen. Michael Crapo [R, ID], Sen. Jim DeMint [R, SC], Sen. Michael Enzi [R, WY], Sen. Lindsey Graham [R, SC], Sen. Charles Grassley [R, IA], Sen. Orrin Hatch [R, UT], Sen. John Hoeven [R, ND], Sen. James Inhofe [R, OK], Sen. John Isakson [R, GA], Sen. Mike Johanns [R, NE], Sen. Ron Johnson [R, WI], Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL], Sen. Jon Kyl [R, AZ], Sen. Richard Lugar [R, IN], Sen. John McCain [R, AZ], Sen. Mitch McConnell [R, KY], Sen. Jerry Moran [R, KS], Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH], Sen. James Risch [R, ID]

13 total Nay Votes (no details yet)

And 12 cowards abstain:
Democrats Voting 'Abstain'
Sen. Thomas Carper [D, DE], Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D, CA], Sen. Kay Hagan [D, NC], Sen. Tim Johnson [D, SD], Sen. Mary Landrieu [D, LA], Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT], Sen. Claire McCaskill [D, MO], Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY]

Republicans Voting 'Abstain'
Sen. Roy Blunt [R, MO], Sen. Kay Hutchison [R, TX], Sen. Pat Roberts [R, KS]

Others Voting 'Abstain'
Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I, CT]

Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Sounds like an incident in the 1800s when Charles Sumner was attacked by a another Senator (forgot his name)

Just before the civil war... It is coming. The constitutionalists against the corporatist fascists.

It won't last long, the corporatist fascists have only money, constitutionalists have ideals.

People,

What is happening in our world? Not just here in the US, but all around the globe there's unrest and anger. Marching in the streets of cities, protests, military actions, police brutality, unlawful searches, basic human rights being trampled...

All of this, all of the hate and anger and abuse and fear, will soon be evaporating into memories.

Just remember this: be ready and don't be afraid.

hadituptohere

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Here they are: ....

Thank you this gets copied and saved, to remind me why I will NOT vote for the SOB from my state....

Attica! Attica! Attica!



seriously though, I would love to starts some demonstrations like the ones abroad. We need more than a few people. We would need several large groups to do it at once in various cities. The problem is, I can only think of one face book friend of mine who would agree to do something like that. The rest of them are more worried about sports and TV... oh and Lady GaJew or GoGo..

It's absolutely shameful that Rand Paul was nearly the only guy out there yelling fire on this. Anyone defending Harry Reid's comments on this ought to be ashamed of themselves.

"When the clock strikes midnight tomorrow, we would be giving terrorists the opportunity to plot attacks against our country, undetected,"

Ya right.... How is datamining my search records (I'll save you money... I look at alternews websites and pictures of Salma Hayek) going to stop determined terrorists?

reply to post by morder1


America has been a country of the elites vs. everyone else for a long, long time. It's so blatantly obvious, or should be, to anyone who gives a crap about our country that most of our elected leaders have nothing but their own interests and those in power above them.

You think you live in a free country, think again. What we have before us is a quasi-socialist government, bordering on totalitarianism. We have no Republic, no democratic process. Our Constitution is only waved around when it suits a political point of view to further an agenda.

The goal is to enslave all of us who aren't cut of the same cloth. Make no mistake about it, if we allow them to have more power, it will be the end. How's that revolution going to turn out when they take your weapons and charge you as a terrorist!

Think it's far-fetched? No, that's our reality. We should look upon these times as our nation's forefathers did. We are oppressed. We are living in tyranny. We need to take back our government as it has reached its tentacles into our lives and choked the very essence of what it means to be an American.

You and I are labeled as corporations, so they can steal your wages as 'income'. You have been lied to. When one dares to stand up, they are trivialized, demoralized, institutionalized and sometimes shot or met with an unfortunate accident.

Our money is fake. Our politicians smiles are fake. Our President's rhetoric is fake. None of this is done to benefit you or I, only Unions, Lobbyists, PACs, Big Money, Wall Street, etc..

The more I live, the more I fear that I will awake with a dictator in the white house, troops in the street and a gun pointed at my head because I dared stand up for what made us once a great nation.

Goodbye America. It sure was a wild ride.

I suggest reading through some of his proposed amendments. Most don't know or care to know the details other than what they see on TV (which isn't much).

Some of Sen. Pauls comments, straight from the record.

Mr. PAUL. Mr. President, in accordance with rule V of the Standing Rules of the Senate, I hereby give notice in writing that it is my intention to move to suspend Rule XIV, paragraphs 3 and 4 for the purpose of moving to proceed to S.J. Res. 15, as follows:

S.J. Res. 15

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That--

(1) a state of war between the United States and the Government of Libya is hereby formally declared; and

(2) the President is hereby authorized and directed--

(A) to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the United States Government to carry on war against the Government of Libya; and

(B) to issue to private armed vessels of the United States commissions or letters of marque and general reprisal, in such form as the President shall think proper, and under the seal of the United States, against the vessels, goods, and effects of the Government of Libya.

Mr. PAUL. Mr. President, in accordance with rule V of the Standing Rules of the Senate, I hereby give notice in writing that it is my intention to move to suspend Rule XIV, paragraphs 3 and 4 for the purpose of moving to proceed to S.J. Res. 16, as follows:

i thought the republicans and tea partiers were going to take back our freedoms?

i guess their busy with passing laws against the word gay.

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I'm from Missouri, and at first I thought Senators Blunt and McCaskill didn't vote because they were in Missouri due to the tornado in Joplin. Then I looked both of them up at Google News and discovered they were both in Washington today. It's simply unacceptable that they would not vote on this issue. I know Blunt is a hawk, but he's not running in 2012. McCaskill is definitely going to voted out in 2012. I just hope we have some liberty-loving candidates. Of course, I shouldn't be able to vote directly for U.S. Senators. The MO State Legislature should appoint them. We really do need to repeal the 17th Amendment. The House was supposed to represent the People. The Senate was supposed to represent the States. Today, no one cares about the States.

Games have rules to prevent exploitation. If you can change the rules at will, exploitation IS the game.

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I could have sworn I saw you on a Palin thread praising her name earlier today. Pick a side. There is establishment R and D, and then there are true principled individuals like Rand and Ron Paul.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
So if you oppose the Patriot act, or uphold the constitution as Rand Paul did, you are considered a terrorist?

This propaganda has got to stop!

S and F!

edit on 25-5-2011 by sheepslayer247 because: spellin's

the reason they take those stances is because they figure if they push people enough those people will fight back, then they can call them terrorists and say "look just like i said, this guy was this this this and that, and now hes done this so hes a terrorist and i was right all along"

and i actually think it will work, because i dont see anything getting better, only worse, and as it gets worse, more people will be pushed, and more people will become the terrorists the govt wants them to be

For a number of years now America as being busy promoting it's self as a champion for freedom and democracy for the world, yet all the while the American people are slowly losing their freedom.

A large problem is that if shout too much about a issue you don't agree with in America you are labeled traitor to the country, back in the Veitnam war if you disagreed with that you where a communist.

Two sides of the same coin.

I see more and more stories of police brutality and misuse of their authority given to them by the PEOPLE, and now if the bill is passed (and i think it will) they will have unlimted power.

And a message to those who are angry and want to lash out to those incharge/power, remember one little thing, they have more bullets you!

As i sit here in my English home watching this unfold, i can't help thinking that if the American people dont fight this peacfully, then they don't deserve freedom for them selves.

After all it's gonna be to late when they kick in your front door and drag you screaming from your bed to some cell without any thoughts to your rights as a human being. (perhaps then you will realise what reedom is worth)

WITH A NAZIS SALUTE AND A STEELCAP BOOT ....

What ever happens in the USA eventually finds it's way to England, this is why i am watching this very closely.

Also i once read about a prediction made about this bill, it will lead to a American civil war and then 3rd world war.

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for Rand Paul. i can't believe this aired on fox!?! to them also this time for giving us real news!