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In general, American women have become the dregs of womanhood, which is unfortunate because as little as 40 years ago they were considered the ‘top of the line’ and it was pleasure to be around them because of the image of beauty and allure that women around the world aspired toward.
Originally posted by soficrow
All I can say is - don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Whatever it's called, the women's movement is important. Just because TPTB try and takeover everything and everyone that might lend them credibility and power doesn't mean the movement has no merit at its core.
btw - I don't agree with much you have to say. Love you anyway.
Originally posted by irsuccubus
My philosophy...be useful. Simple as that. Be effective and be useful and choose a life other than that of being an ornament. If that means being a mom...do it. If that means driving 18 wheelers...go for it! Women need to approach life as you would a banquet and not allow themselves to get put in a place where they cannot continue to grow as the wonderful creatures they are.
And men....men are amazing creatures that are full of fascination for me and many women, which is why they do so much to get their hands on one. No one should be dominating anyone unless theres latex involved and thats your kink. We all need each other. That being said...RESPECT MA AUTHORITAH!!
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by soficrow
I have NO DOUBT that TPTB hijacked, appropriated and subverted the women's movement.
Oh - would you say they are Opportunists?
No one "created" the women's independence movement.
It is a progression movement just like anything else.
Nothing stands still.
Originally posted by soficrow
Well, there were some pretty committed women who put a lot on the line every so often. Suffragettes like Millicent Fawcett, Emmeline Pankhurst and Annie Kenney come to mind,
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Brown Bear
In general, American women have become the dregs of womanhood, which is unfortunate because as little as 40 years ago they were considered the ‘top of the line’ and it was pleasure to be around them because of the image of beauty and allure that women around the world aspired toward.
Though i agree with some of your points, mainly that to much feminism is not a good thing, and that you cant trade the paradigm of family for a carer or whatever else and not have consequences, infact you cant change anything without there being some consequences, because everything is the way it is, for a reason. But the rest like the above quote are just mute and plain pulled out of your ass, and there is so much overgeneralizing in your post even i got to say, WTF are you smoking.
Originally posted by PaganArchangel
reply to post by kalamatas
That's cool, but for those of us for which marriage and children seem like drudgery, there is also bliss in singlehood and childlessness, whether one comes from a dysfunctional family or not..just sayin'. I don't live in a country that obligates me to marriage and constant Motherhood, and I am thankful for this.
I was born in the right place
Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by Yeah-Alright
I know what you mean. But I have also noticed physical changes, and not just with women becoming more butch but also men becoming more feminine. I think this may be because of the large variety of gender bender chemicals found in western foods especially in places like America, western countries that don't have so much of these chemical (like certain parts of Europe) don't seem to have as much problems.
I'm wondering if these chemicals could also be causing psychological changes as well as just the physical. And if these chemical effects, combined with the societal factors (such as feminist movements and metro-sexual new age guy etc. etc.) is exacerbating the changes.
Personally im all for embracing the differences/opposites of the sexes, rather than merging them into a common middle ground all just for the sake of equality. But, in general I think we should always cherish diversity. This doesn't mean I condone any oppression, but rather that we should be careful not to destroy the sexualities just because we cant get them to effectively complement each other in synthesis of teamwork.
edit on 7-3-2011 by polarwarrior because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by unityemissions
Originally posted by soficrow
...Whatever it's called, the women's movement is important. Just because TPTB try and takeover everything and everyone that might lend them credibility and power doesn't mean the movement has no merit at its core.
Well, I agree with this line of thought. I'm not at all okay with women not being given equal rights. They should be given the right to vote, and to choose what they think is best for their lives....
but I just don't think that's what's behind the "feminist" movement... at least not now.
I'm still up for any good book suggestions you have that may help me to break through my current bonds of ignorance.
I don't doubt that in some past societies, the gender roles were meshed in.
The questions I have are: WHY, and WAS IT BEST?! Perhaps, given whatever circumstances existed, it was best at the time. Now a days... I just don't see it.
I'm saying it seems incredibly obvious that the AVERAGE male and female have certain inherent genetic propensities, and these are usually manifest as the male best taking the role of provider and protector, and the female best taking the role as a compassionate nurturer.