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Originally posted by Chastral
this is really superficial. It doesnt say or mean anything. So what Obama bows to people... he is also supposedly going to force vaccinations (when he wont take one). Really, does this matter?
Originally posted by treemanx
Is that what you want out representing the US to other Nations?
Originally posted by Kryties
Originally posted by treemanx
Is that what you want out representing the US to other Nations?
What "the other nations" want is for America and Americans to stop lording themselves over the world and acting like you shouldn't have to pay respect to anybody.
What "the other nations" want is to see America making an effort to rid itself of it's bully image, it's "we are better than you" claim.
What "the other nations" want is for America to stop acting as if we should all bow down to you simply because you happen to be a large nation who has sucessfully fought a few wars. WHOOPDIE DOO, so have we all - many WELL before the US existed, yet you don't hear us bragging about it or bignoting ourselves to get attention.
[edit on 15/11/2009 by Kryties]
Originally posted by Inquiring Mind
Whats the big deal? He's just showing the guy a little respect.
Originally posted by Kryties
Originally posted by treemanx
Is that what you want out representing the US to other Nations?
What "the other nations" want is for America and Americans to stop lording themselves over the world and acting like you shouldn't have to pay respect to anybody.
What "the other nations" want is to see America making an effort to rid itself of it's bully image, it's "we are better than you" claim.
What "the other nations" want is for America to stop acting as if we should all bow down to you simply because you happen to be a large nation who has successfully fought a few wars. WHOOPDIE DOO, so have we all - many WELL before the US existed, yet you don't hear us bragging about it or big-noting ourselves to get attention.
[edit on 15/11/2009 by Kryties]
Originally posted by treemanx
Do you think that there may be other, maybe better way to show respect to other leaders than to bow submissively?
Ive never been to Australia, do you guys do a lot of *** kissing over there? Alot of bowing to make other people think you are not such a bad country?
There are better ways to improve opinions of America abroad than this. This is an absolute travesty to say the least, and none of your whiny, ridiculous posts will change my view on that. Thanks for trying though!
Originally posted by treemanx
Oh by the way, remind me where I said that I gave a crap what "the other nations want"?
Originally posted by treemanx
Is that what you want out representing the US to other Nations?
Originally posted by Kryties
Originally posted by treemanx
Oh by the way, remind me where I said that I gave a crap what "the other nations want"?
Right here.....
Originally posted by treemanx
Is that what you want out representing the US to other Nations?
If you didn't care what the "other nations" thought, why the need for this sentence then?
Originally posted by treemanx
reply to post by Kryties
Also, your right, I have never been to Australia, and dont know much about YOU. But I did like Crocodile Dundee, and worry that you poor souls cant own guns for your own enjoyment and protection. I also know that your Country pushed the islands natural inhabitants, the Aborigines, around for quite a while. Not even giving them a voice in their own Country until like the 1970's or something.
Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by treemanx
(remember now, I am not the only one in this thread with this point-of-view).
Originally posted by treemanx
I dont expect you to understand what being a proud American is.
I enjoy freedoms that you likely never will.
My family and extended American family has shed blood on distant battlefields for other humans to be free, and for my freedom.
While you, an Aussie, may look at the American Flag and see all the things you dont like about America, I look at it and see all the things I do. And if other Nations dont feel that way also, then p**s on them.
Can you say the same..........truthfully?
Originally posted by Kryties
Originally posted by treemanx
I dont expect you to understand what being a proud American is.
I understand pride in ones country. I am a proud Aussie. But the difference is I am not blinded by that pride or patriotism.
I enjoy freedoms that you likely never will.
See, this is where Americans have it SO damned wrong. I enjoy just as many freedoms as you guys (maybe not the guns but then again we aren't a nation of people who like shooting things). I can walk down the street and buy whatever I want (subject to availability of course), I can travel anywhere in my country that I choose, I can watch what I want, eat what I want, I can go and see a doctor without being lumped with a large bill and the list goes on. You guys seem to be under the impression that you are the only free country in the world. This is wrong on so many levels.
My family and extended American family has shed blood on distant battlefields for other humans to be free, and for my freedom.
As did mine, for my freedom.
While you, an Aussie, may look at the American Flag and see all the things you dont like about America, I look at it and see all the things I do. And if other Nations dont feel that way also, then p**s on them.
I look at the American flag and see two things: 1. A wish that America would stop being Worlds PoliceBully, and 2. A nation that is blinded by patriotism.
And that's a great attitude to have, if other nations don't like it then the "p@#$ on them". And you are having a hard time wondering why those same nations think you guys are bullies?
Can you say the same..........truthfully?
Absolutely, 100% I can. We Aussies fought just as hard for our own freedom (without your help), and yet we don't stand apart from the rest of the world and bully it just because we think we have a right to.
Originally posted by treemanx
So you arent a Nation who likes to go around shooting things? Wow, there you go again, representing your whole Country. What about Rodney William Ansell? The real Crocodile Dundee? Was he one of those people you were talking about? I know your Country has more people like him then you might want to tell.
Too bad you and I cant have this discussion over a frosty Coors Light,
How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow (Updated with video, pic)
Does this matter ? Does this bother anyone to have there leader bowing to Royalty ? Is this , the bowing president , the only president that has bowed to royalty while holding office , or were there others that have done so but nothing was made of it ?