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Originally posted by vance
The infamous hoaxters "Doug and Dave" who do very good crop circle formations for years and years have done so in this same field many times.
Originally posted by Balez
reply to post by Mark Roazhar
Well, some of them are obviously man made.
And then we have the crop-circles that stand out, for having abnormalities that man made crop-circles dont have.
Here is a link about this:
Have some fun researching
Originally posted by samureyed
Would it be possible for someone to post a few samples of the BEST known man made crop circles so I can see what humans are actually capable of doing with a board and a wire? I have never seen some of the ones posted and it really got my blood flowing.
Originally posted by Mark Roazhar
Originally posted by Balez
reply to post by Mark Roazhar
An interesting read.
Problem is, as with many such articles (I wont mention Global Warming) is that you can lean the evidence and data to how you wish others to read it.
Like I always say when confronted with such evidence, how would I do it.
This summer I will arrange for a crop circle to be made, under controlled conditions, no aliens or other involvement, and see what the experts have to say. I'll report on it after the event so as to avoid corruption and see what the experts make of it.
Scientific analysis
In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned 5 aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes which she believed set "real" crop circles apart from known man-made circles such as those created by Doug and Dave.[33] These criteria were:
Elongated apical plant stem nodes
Expulsion cavities in the plant stems
The presence of 10-50 micrometer diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly
Over the course of a single night the team were able to create a stereotypical "man-made" circle which they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter; using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3 they built a device - dubbed the "Flammschmeisser" - which sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time consuming to use and they were forced to finish the task using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be "on a par with any of the documented cases". Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, noting that the team had only been able to recreate 2 of the 3 criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer.[33]
The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the Discovery channel documentary "Crop Circles: Mysteries in the Fields
Originally posted by mikesingh
The transmission consisted of a simple pictorial message aimed at the globular star cluster M13. This cluster is roughly 21,000 light-years from us, near the edge of the Milky Way galaxy, and contains approximately a third of a million stars.
Originally posted by Palasheea
Perhaps those same covert agencies are the also the creators of the Arecebo crop circle and others where they are using the same technology they used in Colares, Brazil only a variation of it to create those landscape pictographs.
SETI’s Response:
There is no evidence to suggest an other-than-earthly origin for these graphics. In other words, a prank by a group of ‘circle makers’, but of which we have not a clue, even seven years on!! Can the makers come forward and show us how it’s been done over one night and put to rest once and for all the mystery at Chilbolton?