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Was This A Message From Extraterrestrials??

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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 02:39 AM

Arecibo Radio Telescope, Puerto Rico

Since a number of years, I have been pretty intrigued by the famous ‘reply’ to the Arecibo message. Though it has been mentioned in passing earlier here on ATS, but it hasn’t received the attention I thought it deserves.

That said, in 1974, a powerful broadcast was beamed into space from the Arecibo Radio Telescope, Puerto Rico. The transmission consisted of a simple pictorial message aimed at the globular star cluster M13. This cluster is roughly 21,000 light-years from us, near the edge of the Milky Way galaxy, and contains approximately a third of a million stars.

This was a very powerful emission, equivalent to a 20 trillion watt omni directional broadcast using Arecibo's megawatt transmitter attached to its 305 meter antenna, concentrating the beam in a very narrow funnel of the sky. The emission, that could be detectable just about anywhere in the galaxy within that funnel, would have been detectable by a receiver similar in size to Arecibo's. This transmission was the strongest man-made signal ever sent.

The message consisted of 1679 bits, arranged into 73 lines of 23 characters per line. The "ones" and "zeroes" were transmitted by frequency shifting at the rate of 10 bits per second and was transmitted at a frequency of 2380 MHz and modulated by shifting the frequency by 10 Hz. The total broadcast was less than three minutes.

This was the pictorial message sent…

This is the encoded message sent from Arecibo.
The Internet Encyclopedia.

The most interesting portion was the one that represented humanity.

The element in the center represents a human.
The element on the left (in the image) indicates
the average height of a person: 1764 mm.
The element on the right depicts the size of the
Human population in 1974, around 4.2 billion.
Courtesy: Technology

The meaning of each component is described here…

The Arecibo reply

The ‘message’ etched into the field resembling the 1974 Arecibo radio transmission,
that appeared in a farmland next to the Chilbolton radio telescope, home of SETI, in Hampshire, UK,
on 19 August 2001.
Pic: Lucy Pringle.

The 'ET Reply'.
Courtesy: Pufoin

Chilbolton Face: August 13, 2001

A week before the Chilbolton Code formation appeared, an eerie face image appeared in the field, not far from where the Code was to appear. From ground level it looked like an undecipherable mess. The image was created almost like a newspaper photograph, with dots in various sizes giving an impression of depth when viewed from a distance.

When a helicopter passed overhead, the image became perceivable. It is an odd image, vaguely reminiscent of the infamous Face on Mars. If the bottom of the Chilbolton Code refers to the 1999 formation for more detail, the center of the Code, where one can see what appears to be a arge-headed humanoid, may refer to the near-by face image for more detail. If this is the case, then the senders of the message sent along a snap shot.

The Chilbolton face and the famous face on Mars (Below).
Notice the resemblance?

The Reply

It is so named because it appears to be a response to the Arecibo message that appeared in a farmland next to the Chilbolton radio telescope, home of SETI in Hampshire, UK, on 19 August 2001. It was 75 feet wide and 120 feet long.

Now let’s take a look at this ‘reply’ which had taken 27 years from the time it was transmitted. This is shown as an animated image of the first transmission, slowly transposed with the ‘ET’ response. Note the slight difference in the shape of the heads!

Courtesy: Web-recon.

The reply had a few differences. Two that stand out are:

For one, the humanoid has a far larger head. There is now an extra strand on the right side of the DNA double-helix and another, less obvious, change is in the binary coding of the number of nucleotides in DNA itself (in the center).

The human genome has 4,293,917,614, or nearly 4.3 billion nucleotide sequences, while the mystery genome sequence has 4,294,966,190, or 1,048,576 (one million) more nucleotide sequences than human DNA.

Red Setter, a world expert on DNA research, has made a very interesting observation that he made only after intensive personal research stimulated by the odd DNA images in the Chilbolton Code formation. He notes that:
"The central part of the Chilbolton pictogram shows that a DNA double helix as found on Earth, with 10 base pairs per turn, has been replaced on one side by a novel single-stranded helix with just 6 bases per turn.

I had to work hard for several days, to discover that the single-stranded helix with 6 bases per turn refers to 2', 5'-linked RNA or DNA, as opposed to the normal 3', 5' variety. This is known to hardly any molecular biologist, and I found out only by making an accurate model”.

More here..

So what do you think of all this? Is it a prank played by hoaxers? Or is it an actual response from an ET civilization?

Consider this…

> Why should ‘they’ have responded with a message in a crop field? Why not through radio like we had done? Probably they don’t want to shock us with the ultimate truth that we are not alone, just yet. Is it part of a graduated disclosure response?

> Is it because ‘they’ wanted to publicize it, for all to see, considering the secrecy in such matters? Perhaps, just like SETI, we weren't ready to listen as a people. Alternatively, they may have been trying to communicate for years, but the self-serving official cover-up has kept a lid on the pertinent information.

> Is it possible that someone in that area was knowledgeable about Drake's Arecibo signal who could have contributed information to the (human) circle makers to construct this elaborate hoax to entertain us? Whoever made them had enough scientific knowledge to be able to subtly alter the binary code so that the formation answered some of the questions that were asked. Why would a human being with this degree of scientific capability waste his or her time making fake crop circles?

> Was it possible for pranksters to have made this within visual range of the security assets that surround the Chilbolton facility?

SETI’s Response:
There is no evidence to suggest an other-than-earthly origin for these graphics. In other words, a prank by a group of ‘circle makers’, but of which we have not a clue, even seven years on!! Can the makers come forward and show us how it’s been done over one night and put to rest once and for all the mystery at Chilbolton?

Until it’s proved beyond doubt to be a hoax, I’ll add this to my shelf of unsolved mysteries!



[edit on 10-3-2008 by mikesingh]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 03:01 AM
reply to post by mikesingh

As always mikesingh post the stuff that really is interesting

Well, my take on this story is that in all probability it is a hoax (cropcircle).
But i can not be certain though, as always this subject has been ridiculed for so many years it seems to be more and more difficult to find any answers at all.

Either everything is a very well planned disinformation program to set many off-course from what the truth is.

I wonder though, where this signal that the SETI group recieved a few years back, what that was....


posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 03:05 AM
Terrific story, and thanks for sharing it with us.
I have a feeling that no matter what these ET's do, if in fact they're out there, will always be explained away and there will never be full disclosure. Everything is suspect and even SETI who promoted millions years ago to look for anomalies will not own up to anything. What a waste of time!
Good thread

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 03:19 AM
Great post MIke, as always

If it appeared overnight, and it was within range of whatever security covers the area, only two scenarios make any real sense:

1/ It's the real deal... perhaps done in this way for the disclosure reasons you outlined.

2/ It's a fake and the Chilbolton radio telescope facility is in on the 'prank'. Perhaps they need the publicity, or it's a way of raising their public profile, or a way of attracting funding, or something.

I really can't see it being the standard corncircle kind of hoax, the type where a few people sneak into a field, etc... Why do I say this?... Because it appeared overnight, within sight of their security, and the rather exotic & specialised nature of the content.

Starred and flagged

[edit on 10/3/2008 by Dagar]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 04:05 AM
I believe this event to be an actual alien response, how it should be handled and what respnse to reply with could be the greatest alien human communication breakthrough ever. What has the responce been by the original broadcasters to the "message" back from the aliens?

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 04:06 AM
reply to post by Dagar

I agree.

If this was to be a true message from beyond the stars (something I just cry out for) would it not be more likely that "they" would have "printed" the message somewhere larger, more public?

If it is nothing but a prank (if to increase popularity to the site and research) it would make sense in some way, but still, isn't it a little bit of an over-kill to do it so elaborate? I mean, it's not your everyday crop-circle-making-brat that knows how to even read the original signal, not to mention creating his/her/their own version of it with major adjustments that all work out... That demands some skill.

If prank, it has to be an inside job due to the already mentioned security at the area (not aware of how tight it is though). At the location the aquired knowledge to make such an image is present (I guess).
But bored must these people be to do such a thing and, most important, not even taking the cred for it. I mean, I was waiting for someone of them to step forward to say something predictable like;
"yeah I did it, and you know why? Because there are no aliens! Moahaha!" but that never happened, did it?

Still, since I am so bitter and flooded with disbelief my money is on some mid-aged, slightly overwheight über-nerd with thick glasses and greasy hair sitting at the facility not conduting the duties he should, instead just leaning back heavily, patting his tummy with a smirky smile on his spotty face and just basking in the gentle warmth of personal glory from pulling a real cunning maneuver without anyone knowing neither when, who, why or how. I am too sure about it to feel ok. It is a dirty trickm, a dirty, nasty and evil trick. He will take it to the grave too, the joy of having a secret is just too bloody precious for that little *SNIP*.


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[edit on 10-3-2008 by NGC2736]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 04:30 AM

Originally posted by mikesingh

Arecibo Radio Telescope, Puerto Rico

So what do you think of all this? Is it a prank played by hoaxers? Or is it an actual response from an ET civilization?

Consider this…
Why a cropfield...
> Is it because ‘they’ wanted to publicize it, for all to see, considering the secrecy in such matters? Perhaps, just like SETI, we weren't ready to listen as a people. Alternatively, they may have been trying to communicate for years, but the self-serving official cover-up has kept a lid on the pertinent information.

I liked this cropfield image a lot when it happened and of course I do not know where to put it. Did they find other anomalies on the ground? Burns, radioactive stuff, weird grows on the wheat?

But to answer you question on the "why a cropfield?", I lean towards the opnion that it is a good medium. Most of the overnight created and complex images are close to impossible feats for humans with boards and ropes.

Would I have been an alien, I would have chosen an open medium, write it in symbols and graphics for everybody to see. So no exclusive channels like radio waves or red telephones of Presidents. Cropfields may be the only medium they have we cannot hide for the onlookers.

To be proof WE would want it to be is a message written on a pamflet made out a non-earhtly material like a pamflet screen (preferably something you can fold and unfold without damage or trace) with a video on it of the ET's in their own habitat and the whole history of our relationschip thrown out of an spacecraft. Like a real pamflet it must be thrown out in billionfold, so nobody can snatch it and let it dissapear. You should find it on every streetcorner, roof, garden or natural environment.

Slightly of subject, I would recommend you the new video of David Wilcock (I have no conclusives on the guy, but a powerfull mind for sure)
The 2012 Enigma. Interesting cropfields there and a new perspective on our Pineal Gland and it's relation to Looking Glass experience...yes time travel!
The 2012 Enigma by David Wilcock

Google Video Link

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 04:57 AM

Always a pleasure to read and discuss your posts.

I remember the Arecibo message, modified to be an answer, from UFO news a few year ago. The DNA data additions and modifications and some other things where well done if faked, and would have to be a graduate student in the fields covered some who should know said. I remember the arguments and the statements from officials, but, and I must point this out, no evidence of fakery or pranksters.

Absence of evidence does not mean anything one way or another. So it is still an open case in my opinion. I also tend to believe it is less likely a prank. Just a gut, but the Crop Circle phenomena is still a strange mystery to me.

Have at it! The collective consciousness here at ATS always finds new angles and insights.


posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 05:16 AM

Originally posted by Pjotr
Did they find other anomalies on the ground? Burns, radioactive stuff, weird grows on the wheat?

I tried looking for an electromagnetic connection to this one but haven't found it so far. But here is another which means that it's quite possible that there may be a link. I wonder if any tests were conducted?

Has this magnetic anomaly been formed by pranksters too?
Courtesy: Colin Andrews.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 05:52 AM
Thanks for posting!

Interesting story, i wonder why a second attempt at comunication has not been done, at least i can´t find anything on it using google. Anyone know if a second message was ever composed/sent? It´s natural to assume that if you call out for someone and that someone answers two things might happen...

1) You find the one you called out for.
2) You call out again.

None the less, this is a really interesting story, keep at it Mike

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posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:35 AM
Nice topic mike

Another crop circle appeared in the same place as the reply, yet this one was a year before On August 14th 2000:

Look familiar yet?

Here is a larger aerial photo:

On the bottom of the reply, there was a symbol of the "alien" communication device used to transmit the reply.

Now look at the 2 together:



[edit on 10-3-2008 by olegkvasha]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:49 AM

I wonder though, where this signal that the SETI group recieved a few years back, what that was....

And it was called the "WOW signal".

Well here is an ATS discussion on it!ATS Discussion on SETI signal

This link is from the BAR (Big ear radio) site.


What i can remember there was another signal that was recieved in the late 80's but i can not find any information on that at all.
This had supposedly a set of mathematical numbers in it.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 06:57 AM
I only believe in crop circles as great works of art, done by people who enjoy the fuss it causes

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 07:16 AM
Great article and topic. I just want to point one thing out as you consider this event. The infamous hoaxters "Doug and Dave" who do very good crop circle formations for years and years have done so in this same field many times. Not to throw water on the OP as I did enjoy all the reading. I just wanted to add that too me a justifiable reason to be a little skeptical to say the least.


posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 07:35 AM

Originally posted by olegkvasha
Now look at the 2 together:



Wow, Rich, you rock! That was fascinating!! I didn't notice that.
A star for you! Now things are getting interesting, what?


posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 07:47 AM
reply to post by Mark Roazhar

Well, some of them are obviously man made.

And then we have the crop-circles that stand out, for having abnormalities that man made crop-circles dont have.

Here is a link about this:

Have some fun researching

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:16 AM
As an amateur crop circle researcher I've had a pretty intensive look into these formations a couple of years ago, I was particularly obsessed with this formation and the other Chilbolton formations. With my poor knowledge of binary and biology I didn't get very far.

What I will say is that if it is a hoax these guys are academics, not only do they need to know ascii, but also some obscure biology as well.

I have never found an answer to why Carl Sagan, who was no slouch when it came to biology decided to put the number of human nucleotides at 4.3 billion when the number is around 3.5 billion, not sure of the exact numbers.
This was way off what the biology books of the time where stating. So why such a precise number and why so many more?

I believe the symbol at the bottom is depicting the plasma orbs often seen in conjunction with the glyphs, complete with depiction of polarity. Interesting that this was done right next to a radio telescope eh?

The Chilbolton face is truly awesome, I'd like to see that replicated!
The image of the grey and binary coded disc was also found in the same spot the year after I believe.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:18 AM
Thanks for starting this thread! This is an intriguing mystery to say the least. To add another piece to this puzzle...

The code may read: "Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION. [ACK]" [ACK] = request acknowledgment

(Original image copyright 2002: Crop Circle Connection).


Like bookends, the 2001 Chilbolton Code formation and the 2002 Crabwood Code Formation stand as mysterious sentinels over a fascinating mystery that deepens with each passing year. Exactly one year after an alien face appeared in a field near Chilbolton, England, another alien face (right) appeared in a field near Crabwood Copse on Vale Farm in the village of Pitt near Winchester, Hampshire, U. K.

In both cases, a binary-coded message appeared nearby.

The recent message is in English, coded in the ASCII standard for computer data storage, and arranged in the manner in which CD-ROMs are produced.

The Crabwood formation appeared near three microwave towers, bristling with dishes of all sizes and shapes, and is over the hill from one of the world's most magnificent cathedrals in Winchester, once the capital of England. Thus technology, religion and politics are all potentially involved here, as they will surely be if the formation turns out to be off-planet communication.

One reason I believe they would have used this approach, if these are not hoaxes, is to demonstrate that they are already visiting earth.

[edit on 10-3-2008 by DancedWithWolves]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:28 AM
Remember the last line of the code - "conduit closing - bell sound".

I thought of this instantly after listening to Dorothy Izatt on the ATS mix show,
She claimed that they can only travel here when a window or opening (conduit) was available and sometimes they miss the opportunity and are stuck here until it opens again, something to that effect anyway.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 08:41 AM
Great thread Mike, starred and flagged from me

Dont you wish they could make it easier for the skeptics though. I mean surely they would have the technology to interupt global communications with a message appearing on everyones tv and radio at the same time....Unless there are on a similar technological time line as us and there responses just happen to appear by affecting nature, corn in particular!

Given the complexity of this response its hard to just put it down to 2 blokes, a board and an evenings work, no matter how much beer they had consumed

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