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Originally posted by JohnDoe43
One more thing, and its about proving God exists. If it were possible to prove to everyone without a doubt that there is a god, it would have been done by now. Instead, try finding God for yourself instead of asking people to do it for you.
Originally posted by h3akalee
When you stand in a trench in a thunder storm for 2 hour's almost being hit by lightning what do you realise in a lightning fast manner ?
THERE ARE NO ATHEIST'S IN THE TRENCH.
Have i found my personal answer ?
Regard's
Lee
A community of people who share the motto "deny Ignorance", yet when it comes to religion I swear a majority of users on this site really need to try harder
it is just frustrating to see so many people starting threads trying to debunk god, when they lack such a general understanding of what they are trying to argue against.
One more thing, and its about proving God exists. If it were possible to prove to everyone without a doubt that there is a god, it would have been done by now. Instead, try finding God for yourself instead of asking people to do it for you.
No, you are wrong, people do take the text in the bible out of context all the time. No, Im not going to go find examples for you, just pay attention from now on (assuming you can tell when it is being taken out of context). This mindset you have of us versus them, as indicated by your use of the word we, is ridiculous in my opinon.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
i'd just like to say that most people that cite the bible to disprove it have done so with pinpoint accuracy to the text, i'd like to see where we haven't been true to the text, because i think tbis claim may be more than a bit biased and frankly a bit absurd.
You are wrong in thinking that others can find god for you. You are right that you can find proof for yourself, and your right others should be able to point it out in the sense they can show you how to find it for yourself.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
um...
there is no knowledge in this universe that one can find for one's self that cannot be found for you by others. if something exists, then you would be able to find the proof on your own and others could point it out for you.
i'm one that did try finding the being, i came up with nothing.
Im gonna make this short as its obvious to me how unreasonable you are going to get if I draw this out so Ill make one point. Just because I believe in God does not mean I have the burden to prove anything to you. I am not trying to convince you or anyone of what I believe, but am only giving advice. Take it or leave it.
Originally posted by MajorMalfunction
You are making assumptions that are incorrect. Many atheists, myself and MIMS particularly HAVE read the Bible and we reject it. It is full of evil things, misogyny, genocide, rape, slavery, racism, exclusionism and hatred.
We HAVE tried to find god and have not done so. People who claim there is a god have the burden of proving there is one. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. There is not one scrap of scientifically verifiable evidence of god's existence, just the faithful's wishful thinking and dogged insistence.
Children believe there is a Santa Claus, and they actually have more "evidence" of that particular fictional character's existence than people have for god. But that doesn't mean there is a Santa Claus, and that doesn't mean there is a god either.
It is dangerous to make assumptions about people and then make accusations you have no knowledge to back up. I've sought "god" all my life in many different ways, including going to Christian church and reading the bible. And I find no god there, just delusion and superstition.
Telling people to go and find it for themselves isn't going to prove anything. We haven't found it. If you want us to, I'd be happy to review any actual verifiable empiric evidence you may have, but telling me god exists without concrete evidence isn't going to fly.
You said it better then I could have. Exactly my point.
Originally posted by highfreq
I know what you mean. Because the Bible is such a common text amongst our culture , IMO many people hear a couple storys or read a few passages and for some reason they feel like they have an absolute grasp of what is really being said. I'd like to know how many people actually have read the Bible from cover to cover. Let alone actually go into an in-depth study of word orgin , and a study of the time period. The Bible is like any ancient text or manuscript, a thorough study and analyzation of the context must be done before one can base an opinion.
Your maturity is amazing.
Originally posted by Gonjo
Well isnt that nice of you to sink into the level of people who does not share your knowledge of the truth. It is so amazing to have someone with the faith of god to share with us how we are ignorant and you are just trying to guide us towards this amazing reality of _the_god_.
Thanks for standing on your high pedistal and taking the time to share your wisdom with us lower lifeforms.
Originally posted by Icarus Rising
All I can say about "Ignorance and God" is the Word is truly sealed to unbelievers. It wasn't until after my salvation experience that I was able to understand the Bible.
Originally posted by JohnDoe43
I dont have a number, but many times I see someone using something the they think the Bible says, and its not what the actual text read as.
Sure, religious beliefs are open to interpretation, but it is just frustrating to see so many people starting threads trying to debunk god, when they lack such a general understanding of what they are trying to argue against.