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originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: The GUT
....If the documents are genuine then intel types will contact you asking for an in person explanation of your actions (got in trouble for printing a story about Eurofighter production moving to India ......
“I found many videos and powerpoint briefs (navy standard) and written reports ….”.
You keep referring to further material/documentation.
Almost everyone (including me) that has posted their doubts about the video has indicated that a full opinion would obviously require all available evidence.
Please make that material available. If you have difficulty in uploading it to a website, feel free to email it to me and I'll sort that out….
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…. This information has tons of names and sensitive information, I couldnt just "release" it…
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…You know, if he [TFT] gets caught it is serious repercussions for him right…
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…..I’ve spent some time in the past two days going over the consequences of releasing stolen U.S. classified information for various reasons to the public or to certain groups. It is not something that should be taken lightly and laughed off with “just post it” comments, it is a very serious situation should a true whistleblower show up here…
Number two is the concern of releasing information that could harm U.S. security, such as methods of response for unidentified aircraft or other emergencies. Release of such information would put our own people at risk.
Number three is to let you know that in the U.S. it means prison time...
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…I'd like to see the actually doc file. I'd particularly like the second file (apparently a Powerpoint presentation)…
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If TheFinalTheory or Cometa revisit this old thread, I'd be grateful if they could contact me (either here or via a private message, or by email at …[email protected]).
I'd still like the material I requested from them in 2007
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Also, in another positive development, it appears that the Powerpoint presentation in relation to Nimitz incident(s) may _not_ only have been held by Cometa (and TheFinalTheory)...
… SeenTooMuch has confirmed that a doc file and a Powerpoint file were included in material that Cometa shared. Unfortunately, SeenTooMuch has not retained either file and was not able to open the Powerpoint file… But this suggests that some others involved with me, SeenTooMuch, Cometa and TheFinalTheory in the discussion in 2007 may have at least the Powerpoint file - if not the longer version of the Nimitz ….
So, I remain optimistic (particularly if TFTR responds to the questions I posed last week, in this thread and on Facebook) that it may be possible to obtain the longer version of the video and/or the Powerpoint presentation (i.e. UFO 5 Anomaly brief.ppt).
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originally posted by: mirageman
We may want ‘the truth’ out there. But we should also remember the truth we seek may not even exist.
Edward Geary Lansdale (February 6, 1908 – February 23, 1987)[1] was a United States Air Force officer until retiring in 1963 as a major general before continuing his work with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Lansdale was a pioneer in clandestine operations and psychological warfare. In the early 1950s, Lansdale played a significant role in suppressing the Huk insurgency in the Philippines. In 1954, he moved to Saigon and started the Saigon Military Mission, a covert intelligence operation which was created to sow dissension in North Vietnam. Lansdale believed the United States could win guerrilla wars by studying the enemy's psychology, an approach that won the approval of the presidential administrations of both Kennedy and Johnson.
Operation Passage to Freedom changed the religious balance in Vietnam. Before the war, the majority of Vietnamese Catholics lived in North Vietnam, but after the operation the South held the majority, 55% of which were refugees from the North.[6] Lansdale accomplished that by dropping leaflets in the Northern hamlets stating that "Christ has gone to the South" and other leaflets showing maps with concentric circles emanating from Hanoi suggesting an imminent nuclear bomb strike on the Northern capital.[6]
His first operation, in the Philippines, was remarkably successful. It also led him into a long and fateful relationship with Edward Lansdale, a former advertising executive who became one of the most admired CIA operatives of his age. Lansdale conceived a strategy, based in part on manipulating superstitions, religious beliefs and rumours, by which he believed the army of the Philippines could defeat a Communist-led insurgency. He had also discovered a rising Catholic politician, Ramon Magsaysay, and was grooming him for national leadership...’ Dulles offered Lansdale five million dollars to finance the CIA operations...Lansdale...asked if he was supposed to buy votes with it...He did finally accept one million dollars...delivered...in cash...’
Lansdale’s counterinsurgency campaign was brilliantly designed and brought near-total victory...Allen was thrilled.
Peripheral topic, but it’s caught my attention in the picture of George Knapp et al: sheesh, George Knapp is looking ROUGH, no? Maybe it’s just that particular picture. I think it was made obvious to us a while back (at the beginning of the whole TTSABS) that he was no longer trustworthy. He either got got or was in on the ruse from the beginning, all the way back to cute little Bob Lazar. I’ve seen discussion of the other players in this thread but not much about Knapp. Maybe because he’s not relevant. Any thoughts?
The end game? no idea - be wary of those that proclaim to know that answer...especially if you have to pay to hear/read it whilst wearing their t shirt and supping a beverage from one of their branded mugs.
Humanity's Security? As with the issues in the world currently, fantasizing about what "retrieved alien tech" could do for humanity is great; but is an ignorant fantasy also. The core story of which this relies upon, is unfounded and not provable. Secondly, the desire to have something fall into our laps to solve the worlds woes, indicates the ignorance of the fact that we are responsible for clearing up our own mess - rather than awaiting a gift from Prometheus to clean it all up for us.
Secondly, the desire to have something fall into our laps to solve the worlds woes, indicates the ignorance of the fact that we are responsible for clearing up our own mess - rather than awaiting a gift from Prometheus to clean it all up for us.
Initially, the sacralisation of the extraterrestrial led to an understanding of the alien as a fundamentally benevolent, messianic figure—a ‘technological angel’. This was largely because of the Cold War environment in which much UFO religion arose. Those attracted to the myth looked beyond a politically and militarily unstable planet to extraterrestrial saviours. Furthermore, because UFO religions have their roots in the Theosophical tradition, the religious understanding of the extraterrestrial tended to be fundamentally indebted to the concept of the wise and benevolent ascended master. The aim of this article is to examine the technological angel's foil. The central thesis is that, in their construction of the malevolent alien, UFO religionists and abductees turn not to Theosophy and Eastern religious traditions but to the myths and symbols of Christian demonology. Moreover, in exploring the origins and nature of the demonologies of contemporary UFO religions and abduction spiritualities, the article also draws attention to the importance of popular culture in the West, which, itself influenced by the Christian tradition, contributes to the formation of both popular demonology and also UFO mythology, which are in turn synthesised in UFO demonologies.
...in a channelled message from Soltec of the Ashtar Command, we are given the following information:
"We will enter into a campaign of spreading our imagery through your media. So-called fictional sci-fi books, which will gain mass popularity, will actually be truth disguised as fiction. This will gently accustom humans to the concept of the Ashtar Command...Your media culture is the strongest influence on your western society and it is therefore obvious that we would begin to announce ourselves to the mass consciousness in this manner. (Soltec, 2003)"
On October 16th, 2002, Admiral Thomas Wilson, who had just retired as the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), allegedly met with Astrophysicist Dr. Eric Davis in Las Vegas and explained how he was denied access to a hidden, Unacknowledged Special Access Program that dealt with UFOs and which allegedly had an intact craft in its possession. Dr. McGwier posted this on Dave Scott’s Facebook.