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I’ve just been reading through TFT’s first thread: - He initially got the facts wrong (date, time, shape of craft, …).
- 2005 also happens to be the year he initially claims the incident took place.
So, he [TFT]might have gotten the video, the other files, and the story in 2005 from someone who worked for the Navy, and probably had been sitting on it for two years.
.... I logged on to the top secret computer network ...
I found many videos and powerpoint briefs (navy standard) and written reports and even message traffic that was being passed through our radio division. It was all there. I couldnt believe it at first, but then our ship called in the Air Force because even the captain didnt know what the hell was going on.
I burnt all these files to a disk and stashed it somewhere
So, he might have gotten the video, the other files, and the story in 2005 from someone who worked for the Navy,
In that case: - TFT is a civilian.
- It would be very hard to track down the person he originally got the files from in 2005.
If so, the only option for the Navy is to prosecute a civilian for handing over a UAP video he got from an unknown Navy guy to an unknown German guy. And if they did, the press would certainly want to know why the Navy thinks this is so important.
Perhaps the German guy was a spy? Which might explain why Isaac Koi was so coy about answering questions about his own pursuit of the people and files involved.
Or maybe nothing really happened at all. There was no Nimitz UFO incident and all the people involved are perpetuating a huge hoax.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Sublant
You answer the questions first Subby.
What is your 'plausible theory' on why the Pentagon states it cannot trace the leaker of the video but a handful of ufologists can?
“So is this all a hoax?
There are grounds to believe it is. Which should also put TTSA and others involved in perpetuating the Nimitz UFO story in a very dark light shouldn't it?”
“Or perhaps it was a hoax and TTSA are just using it to forward whatever agenda they are pursuing.”
“Or maybe nothing really happened at all. There was no Nimitz UFO incident and all the people involved are perpetuating a huge hoax.”
As a measure of good faith that I’m open to being proved wrong about the 1961 SNIE. I’d like to point out that openly bragging about concealing or harboring persons who’ve disclosed classified info, and encouraging its release is considered Espionage under Title 18 USC Ch. 37.
Which leaker? 2007 or the NYT’s 2017 article? With respect to the Tic Tac video, it’s been demonstrated to have never been classified in the first place. Today was the first time I’ve ever seen anyone openly say they reasonably believed the 1961 SNIE was classified.
originally posted by: Chronic_Blaze
Now, all this time later, it turns out the video was never classified? Seems strange TFT wouldn't have known, had he been onboard the Nimitz, on the TS server, the supposed location of the video and files...
We've known that none of the three videos were ever classified for quite some time now - it was just Zondo sniffing around the Pentagon's bucket of random "UAV" junk. And they were the best he could find? Naturally he claims there's plenty more junk in the bucket.
Round and round in circles... Forever more... That's ufology for ya...
My UFO Encounter/Exposure While on Board an Aircraft Carrier in the Military (No Pics, Only Story)
I decided to create an account to tell this story of an experience I had while on board an aircraft carrier far from the coast of California in the Pacific.
*FIRST OFF, I am relaying information and supporting circumstances, I did not see a UFO personally. However, it is an interesting story.
I am intentionally going to be vague about certain specifics just to protect my identity, although this information was never told to be kept secret and was wide spread.
During a one or two month "work-up" on an aircraft in the Pacific Ocean, we encountered a UFO. For those that are unfamiliar, "work-ups" are training exercises in preparation for deployment. So, the ship will deploy for anywhere from 2-8 weeks and let the pilots get aircraft carrier experience.
So, we are on a routine "work-up" in the Pacific Ocean. However, this work-up involved multiple carriers and battleships in a rather large exercise. I have zero recollection of the time in the work up that the encounter occurred, but I believe it was a few weeks in.
I was attached to an F18 squadron and worked in a technical capacity, as opposed to working on the flight deck. For 3 days in a row, an Operations Officer noticed an aircraft breaching our restricted airspace. The aircraft was traveling at a low speed at around 20,000 feet. The first 2 days the aircraft was observed, it disappeared from radar after a few minutes before being able to investigate. In preparation for this aircraft, the carriers had f18s ready to scramble.
On the 3rd sighting, a formation of around 10 (very rough guess, but it was a large group) F18c&d's scrambled to the location to investigate including my Commanding Officer.
This is where the story becomes hard to believe and almost silly to tell.
According to the pilots and confirmed by a friend in intel, when they encountered the aircraft it had disappeared from sight. However, there was a large disruption in the ocean below and it was assumed that the aircraft crashed. So, the strike group circled the area and inspected the scene. OK, crazy part now, an object that was described by multiple pilots and a friend in intel as resembled a very large "tic-tac".
Sounds like the ultimate troll job, I know. So, the "tic-tac" oval object lifted from the water. Out of fear or impulse (I have no idea) our pilots decided to engage the object. After lifting from the water and sitting briefly, the object flew at a speed that none of the pilots had ever encountered. It was just gone.
The incident was not cloaked in secrecy. The entire carrier was buzzing with rumors. I was not able to see the COM/NAV actual flight recording, so I was very skeptical. Things get dull in the middle of the ocean and it is not uncommon for troll jobs. So I wasn't exactly sold.
That night in the berthing I asked a very close friend in intel if he could confirm the legitimacy of the film. Without speaking, he gestured that it was correct. So, my skepticism began to fade and that next day a group of individuals were "cod'ed" onto the carrier and they retrieved all the tapes. I can confirm they cod'ed onto the ship, but the seizure of tapes came from people that work in those shops.
Years later I had practically forgotten this experience and I was watching tv at a friend's house. The show was about UFO's and some Russian pilots were describing an experience they had and they actually released the flight footage. The object that captured on film was shaped just like a "tic-tac" and moved faster than anything in existence. If someone can find a video or pic of that doc, much love! It was on History Channel years ago.
Anyways, I hope you guys enjoyed the read. I will try to answer any questions if anyone has any! I don't want to go into details about dates, ship name, my job, etc.... although I don't think it matters, we weren't told to be quiet and it was pretty wide-spread (minus certain details I acquired through discussions)
Reddit - Nov 19th 2013