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originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: bastion
... the serious question that brought us here in the first place...
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
Off-topic, but what will you do when ATS folds, GUT? Personally, ATS was/is the most comfortable bubble from which to spout thoughts on UFOs etc. Without it, I can see my UFO interests deflating to what they were before August 2018: ie non-existent beyond the occasional blip based on mainstream news coverage, as I revert to full-time Real Life (which, at the moment, is pretty bizarre itself).
originally posted by: Chronic_Blaze
I didn't get to see them...
However, Pigsy posted this link criminal.findlaw.com...
And since the post was removed...
I would have hoped people would've saved them, and spread it around. The more public it becomes, control is lost.
The game seems to be ramping up
What exactly did you see?
originally posted by: The GUT
The internet--and ATS being no small part of that--pretty much killed ufology for anyone that wanted to follow the truth wherever it lead. Most if not all of the sacred cows are dead ends that for one reason or another, by accident or on purpose, are pop-mythology/propaganda. Which is no news to most here.
That's not to say that I haven't come to some personal conclusions though. But even those I don't hold tightly and can easily let go of if evidence led elsewhere.
"Are we alone" being such a profound question & compelling mystery has meant that it would, eventually, be weaponized.
Wouldn't it be quite funny if all of the former UFO enthusiasts, the UFO "nuts" as those interested were often labeled, were the only ones immune to the con job while the rest of society became sold-out true believers in whatever the new mythology fleshes out as?
Take care, Mate, it's been cool watching you work your way through the process and in turn adding a lot to the conversation.
originally posted by: Rancidmilk2go
a reply to: Chronic_Blaze
Dude I saw It. Someone posted the #ing nimitiz classified slides from 2004...
Holy #. Why was it removed???
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Cravens
....so I’ll circle back to the thread for any unambiguous answers particularly, answers from Corbell*. * Care to share any inclinations as to why he pulled a drive-by?
I'd consider these facts.
Jeremy is the one that stated an intelligence investigation took place in 2007. Quoting Fravor, who said that the video was classified. Fravor thinking that whoever stole the tape should go to jail.
The Pentagon claimed they couldn't actually determine the source of the leak. But we know a handful of people had their personal details. So how could the intel people be so sloppy. Could they not see the online to and fro that followed the leaks.
Why didn't US authorities approach those pursuing the materials?
Why aren't people in jail?
Perhaps because they have no interest in doing so. Or maybe they did approach those pursuing the materials and we are being lied to.
Another reason is that Jeremy is closely associated with Colonel George in Tom's advisory group.
...George Knapp is an multi-award winning Journalist, the one who famously broke the story of Area-51's existence many years ago [he didn't by the way/i]]. He's an incredible man. I've actually created a secondary advisory group with him included to help take the direction from my Primary Advisors and direct the info toward the youth. ..
Read those old threads from 2007 with the view that this was a case of theft of classified information...
Observations of an Actual UFO
Fighter Jet UFO Footage : The Real Deal
Then this further one.
The Nimitz story in the former OMF forum
It's strange how someone [claiming to be] the original source of the leak turns up again in 2019 on ATS. Freely discussing matters on a public forum. But then refuses to go on the record for Popular Mechanics not long afterwards because they feared repercussions.
There are so many strange things in this case. Including the behaviour of those positioning themselves as authorities on it.
The Department of Defense has authorized the release of three unclassified Navy videos, one taken in November 2004 and the other two in January 2015, which have been circulating in the public domain after unauthorized releases in 2007 and 2017. The U.S. Navy previously acknowledged that these videos circulating in the public domain were indeed Navy videos. After a thorough review, the department has determined that the authorized release of these unclassified videos does not reveal any sensitive capabilities or systems, and does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military air space incursions by unidentified aerial phenomena. DOD is releasing the videos in order to clear up any misconceptions by the public on whether or not the footage that has been circulating was real, or whether or not there is more to the videos. The aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as "unidentified." The released videos can be found at the Naval Air Systems Command FOIA Reading Room: www.navair.navy.mil...