New FOIA Documents Reveal FBI LOST Chain of Custody of Hillary’s Server for Five Weeks

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: xuenchen

Where's the server?

A couple of guys took it out to get washed.

I can easily picture former FBI Director James Comey in this EXACT scene, verbatim, about Hillary's server getting "lost".


What James Comey forgot was this was a COMEDY SATIRE film, and NOT a documentary.

< massive eyeroll >

a reply to: DJW001

Extremely convenient human error which just so happens to favor Hillary... Gee...

a reply to: Sillyolme

Doesn't matter if it was "just the paperwork"

Maybe you should pay attention to all the people in here who actually understand chain of custody and have very clearly explained that by "losing" this paperwork someone effectively made everything on the server or gathered from it non actionable

a reply to: butcherguy

isn't it funny how every Democrat on this site has a law degree and can tell you all the felonies trump has committed via Twitter, but as soon as anything Hillary comes up they mysteriously know absolutely nothing about the law other than that it is bullying Hillary and she definitely isn't playing extremely dirty corrupt and illegal games that would get anyone but her or Obama tossed in prison immediately!

a reply to: xuenchen

Despicable. The FBI is a federal goon squad that uses good people and token police actions as a front for its criminal activity at the governmental level.

We cant trust the freaking FBI. Good job.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: DJW001

if chain of evidence is missing, it means that server could have been shipped to Clintons bedroom, where she wiped it, uploaded porn, used it as a gaming server, transferred thousands of docs to Iran, wiped it again, delivered it to the FBI and put it on the rack..

wiped it(?) wiped it again(?) You mean with a cloth?

a reply to: toms54

Depends on what the definition of is is.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: toms54

Depends on what the definition of is is.

When Hillary was being interviewed about this, one reporter asked her: "Did you wipe the server?"
Her response: "Wipe it? You mean with a cloth?"

a reply to: toms54

I know. I got it. I posted a great quote from her husband when he was asked a question he did not want to answer truthfully. If you don't know it, look it up, classic Clinton.

For the insufferably ignorant:

Chain of Custody Errors: The “chain of custody” refers to the documentation and proper care of evidence, from its seizure by police to its presentation at trial. If the chain of custody is broken, the evidence may lack credibility and could be deemed inadmissible. For example, a woman involved in a car crash has her blood drawn (with a warrant) to see if she was intoxicated while driving. But the police mislabel or mix up the blood evidence with others at the lab. This evidence may be suppressed because the chain of custody was improper.

How to Suppress Evidence - FindLaw

Now, an actual court case as an example:

Twice in the past week, Prince George's County judges have dismissed murder charges against defendants because of what they considered flaws in the prosecution -- the latest in a series of murder cases in recent months that have fallen apart before reaching county jurors.

...

In this week's cases, one judge said the state failed to provide enough evidence, and another ruled that the state had failed to prove the chain of custody of the victim's body.

Two Pr. George's Murder Cases Dismissed - WaPo

Another example:

Police claim a wallet McGowan left behind on an airplane contained two bags of coc aine. A warrant was issued last month, and McGowan was released on $5,000 bail. The authorities themselves concede that the wallet was not in McGowan's possession when it was found on the plane.

The incident illustrates the petty and abuse-prone nature of the drug war, as well as the lack of accountability prosecutors face for poor decision-making and misconduct.

McGowan's lawyer, Jim Hundley, has asked the local county attorney to dismiss the charges, pointing out that "individuals other than Ms. McGowan had access to the wallet for somewhere between approximately 5 hours 40 minutes and more than 11 hours" before the authorities found it.

For that reason alone, the charges should not have been filed. They'll never hold up in court, because the long gap in chain of custody provides more than enough room for a reasonable doubt. But prosecutors have little sense of self-regulation on excessive charging like this, because they face no negative consequences for their decisions. "Who are they gonna believe, you or me?" a Texas prosecutor asked an Uber driver during a drunken tirade.

Rose McGowan Drug Charges an Indictment of Drug War, Out-of-Control Prosecutors - reason

So now that we have that out of the way, anyone who is saying that this is not a big deal is pushing a particular agenda, wantonly ignoring the facts, and not presenting any arguments worth considering in the slightest.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

So now that we have that out of the way, anyone who is saying that this is not a big deal is pushing a particular agenda, wantonly ignoring the facts, and not presenting any arguments worth considering in the slightest.

It is only a big deal if you assume it was an intentional attempt to obstruct justice. If that is the case, you are pushing an anti-Clinton agenda. Presumption of innocence, remember?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

So now that we have that out of the way, anyone who is saying that this is not a big deal is pushing a particular agenda, wantonly ignoring the facts, and not presenting any arguments worth considering in the slightest.

It is only a big deal if you assume it was an intentional attempt to obstruct justice. If that is the case, you are pushing an anti-Clinton agenda. Presumption of innocence, remember?

That’s not true at all.

You could think they were just incompetent and it’s still a huge deal.

The fbi loses chain of custody on the most important piece of evidence in one of the biggest most politicized cases they ever have

And that’s just looking at this on its own

If you take it in conjunction with all of the other doubles standards and biased around the Hillary and trump investigations it becomes even more damning

a reply to: Grambler

*yawn* Cue the "lock her up" chant. The FBI is a human organization. Humans are fallible. It was not the FBI that politicized the case, it was congressional Republicans... all of whom seem to be running their own cover up these days.

a reply to: DJW001

that's the thing, the biggest piece of evidence against her would now be inadmissible in most courts... so this "accident" seems more than a bit absurd with supposedly the best law enforcement agency in the country, and I am told one of the better ones in the world.

I am sure no criminal intent will be the decision that's reached with this lash up.

a reply to: DJW001

Yes we know you don’t care

You’d be the first screaming if Jeff sessions or someone accidentally lost chain of custody for files that were key to the trump Russia in investigation

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: DJW001

Yes we know you don’t care

You’d be the first screaming if Jeff sessions or someone accidentally lost chain of custody for files that were key to the trump Russia in investigation

And you won't care when that does happen. Just so long as everyone is convinced that the FBI is both incompetent and corrupt, right?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: DJW001

Yes we know you don’t care

You’d be the first screaming if Jeff sessions or someone accidentally lost chain of custody for files that were key to the trump Russia in investigation

And you won't care when that does happen. Just so long as everyone is convinced that the FBI is both incompetent and corrupt, right?

The lack of a chain of custody for the server indicates either incompetence or corruption in the FBI, so they are one of the two.... Maybe both.
If Trump has anything to be charged with, I want the FBI to be competent and ethical.... Just like they should have been all along.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: DJW001

Yes we know you don’t care

You’d be the first screaming if Jeff sessions or someone accidentally lost chain of custody for files that were key to the trump Russia in investigation

And you won't care when that does happen. Just so long as everyone is convinced that the FBI is both incompetent and corrupt, right?

But that won't happen because they are no longer using the dirty tricks put in place by the previous administration. So now we have folks saying that the things my party did illegally are just fine because your party is probably going to do it to someday... lol
BOOM🤠

a reply to: DJW001

How funny, you actually described the Mueller investigation.