CONFIRMED - Broward County Officers Were Ordered to NOT Stop The School Shooter.

originally posted by: badw0lf
Something about this Hogg kid too... has the face of a mannequin. has the personality of a scripted bot. Yet has all the media attention.

One minute, "Who would face an ar15 derp derp derp" the next "Arrest him for not facing an ar15 derp derp..." he's CNN's new hatched egg.

And he was out in Cali for an interview of a previous shooting..

ETA: That or he's got a damn good doppelganger out there.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Why would anyone think that was a good idea?
Kids were dying inside.

To keep our boys in blue from being needlessly endangered?

LOL Yeah I couldn't type that with a straight face.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

link to that? previous shooting he was at.

Perhaps they had reason to believe there was a hostage situation, or the shooter had bombs, either with him, or strapped to him. I'd find it hard to believe they kept them from going into the school because they purposely wanted to cause more deaths, or for some political agenda. Unless it was pre-planned, do you really think they had a script for political agenda ready, for when (and if) a shooting occurred in their jurisdiction?

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: carewemust

Regardless of any order given, the cop onsite was chicken shlt and unwilling to do his job.

He can retire with full benefits, but he'll live the rest of his life knowing he could have made a difference that day, but sat outside scared.

Well, would you rather be a living coward, or a dead hero?

One would think this would invite a barrage of lawsuits over their inaction.
Yet no parents have done so?
We're a long way from knowing the truth about what happened there.
Guantanamo might be a place where some answers could be gotten.

originally posted by: fleabit
Perhaps they had reason to believe there was a hostage situation, or the shooter had bombs, either with him, or strapped to him. I'd find it hard to believe they kept them from going into the school because they purposely wanted to cause more deaths, or for some political agenda. Unless it was pre-planned, do you really think they had a script for political agenda ready, for when (and if) a shooting occurred in their jurisdiction?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz already had her bill ready left over from last year; the 2017 Assault Weapons Ban. The very same one they are pushing right now.

They broke active shooter protocol by not engaging the shooter.
They broke EMS protocol by delaying their entry.
Did they do ANYTHING right?
Apparently not.

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Wardaddy454

link to that? previous shooting he was at.

Alright not a shooting. I was confusing it with this story.

But here is aspiring journalist and Youtuber Hogg in Cali


ETA: And I don't even know what to make of this twitter.com...

originally posted by: Asktheanimals


They broke active shooter protocol by not engaging the shooter.
They broke EMS protocol by delaying their entry.
Did they do ANYTHING right?
Apparently not.

They did not have the equipment that would enable them to "see through the walls" of the building, to make an assessment of the situation, prior to rushing in.

Nobody asks the cops to rush blindfolded into a burning house.

So, their actions preserved the lives they could, their own, until they could obtain more information about the situation, that would enable them to also preserve the lives of others inside the building.

A cop being shot dead as he rushes through the door, to enter the building, saves no one, not even himself.

a reply to: AMPTAH

They did not have the equipment that would enable them to "see through the walls" of the building, to make an assessment of the situation, prior to rushing in.

The only assessment they needed to make is "is there an active shooter in the building or not?"

The answer is yes. Entry should've been made. Peterson's attorney claims that Peterson didn't know if there was a shooter outside or not, because he observed wounded kids outside. That's great and all, but it doesn't change the fact that there were still shots coming from inside the building Peterson, and other deputies, were standing outside of.

a reply to: AMPTAH

“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.” ― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

This whole thing is a perfect example how “they” mis/disinform enough to create chaos, confusion and conspiracy questions all the while pushing an agenda.

It’s scary and impressive!

They’ve had a lot of practice

a reply to: AMPTAH

Nobody asks the cops to rush blindfolded into a burning house.

And nobody would. We have fireman for that, and they do it. It's called 'doing your job".

Police "protect and defend", remember?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: AMPTAH

“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.” ― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

Famous saying, "Fools rush in where wise men fear to thread."

a reply to: AMPTAH



Not saying they shouldn't have been careful. But they should have gone in. The fact that they didn't, and may have been ordered not to, is unforgivable.

...and every time, for the rest of their lives, when they look in that mirror, may they die at least 17 times

My understanding is these particular cops were tasked with sweeping crime committed by minors under the rug to keep their federal funding higher. Stopping an active shooter was never in their job description.

Funny seeing as their practice of ignoring crimes committed by minors is essentially what created this shooter...

In that light these offices are portrayed in an even worse light. That is what they really don't want the masses to figure out.

Is it any surprise to usTrevon Martin was a product of this same environment?

It's funny how many are ignoring the truth even when it is right in their face.

they were ordered not to go in

Should we write this 100 times for it to sink in, and the implications of this?

It isn't rocket science.

This was ALLOWED to happen....possibly even TRIGGERED to happen.

I think it is a bit unfair to blame the officers. How do we know they weren't under the impression others were being sent in? We don't. They were following their orders, and likely without the full knowledge that NOBODY was going in.

a reply to: seagull

As much as I LOVE your choice for POTUS in 2020 (in your sig), if you think a practicing Buddhist is going to be elected, you are dreaming.

Sucks too, because that would really be the only unelectable strike against her. Other than that, she's a PERFECT choice for the DNC in 2020.

a reply to: carewemust

the sheriffs dept and school board are just as guilty as shooter
.

And this makes zero sense.

Every active shooter training teachers quick engagement of the shooter is vital to saving lives.

A life is lost on average every ~15 seconds in a mass shooting when the attacker isn't presented with a credible challenge (ie: an armed citizen/LEO vs. someone wielding a chair/empty hands)

Since LEO response time is going to be 5 minutes at the absolute best, it is easy to see how no LE response is going to be effective in saving lives. This makes obvious the fact that MORE not less firearms are needed.

Furthermore, with yet another mass shooting, guns weren't the cause. Furthermore, the shooting (as well as others) only occurred due to FBI/local asset failures to pursue or investigate potential threats (in Broward, it was 40+ reports against Cruz ignored) and then once the officers arrive on scene, they do nothing. Clearly it is a government failure and nothing to do with firearms.

In reality, the shooter is responsible alone for their actions. But the constant failures of government isn't lessening the impact any.

Any yet some people believe having the government posses all the legal weapons (+ criminals posses all illegal ones) is actually a good idea.

I can already feel the skids on the gun control train and can also tell its about to go careening out of control (as it has every other single time)

Get your stories straight next time anti-gunners. And make sure there aren't any typical glaring government failures either. Pretty hard to advocate for sole ownership of weapons by government and criminals when it is government always dropping the ball and criminals will always ignore the laws regardless. In reality, they have painted a target square on the backs of a crucial civil right enjoyed by law abiding citizens for the sake of attacking it.

Latest gun control push? Failed (maybe background checks... maybe)