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originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: buster2010
Getting rid of a fertilized egg before it implants is not abortion. .
It's killing a conceived child. It's an abortion pill. The left doesn't like to admit these are abortificants and they whine that technically they child hasn't implanted so the medical term can't be used. But the fact remains .. it kills a conceived child.
Pregnancy isn't a "belief", it's a medical condition. According to the American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, pregnancy begins upon implantation.
Frozen embryos aren't people, and when an embryo is transferred to a women during a fertility procedure, she "hopes" to become pregnant. She isn't pregnant until that embryo implants.
Again, pregnancy isn't a belief, but when "life begins" is.
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: buster2010
Getting rid of a fertilized egg before it implants is not abortion. .
It's killing a conceived child. It's an abortion pill. The left doesn't like to admit these are abortificants and they whine that technically they child hasn't implanted so the medical term can't be used. But the fact remains .. it kills a conceived child.
Pregnancy isn't a "belief", it's a medical condition. According to the American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, pregnancy begins upon implantation.
Frozen embryos aren't people, and when an embryo is transferred to a women during a fertility procedure, she "hopes" to become pregnant. She isn't pregnant until that embryo implants.
Again, pregnancy isn't a belief, but when "life begins" is.
Soooo what your saying is that I ,as an atheist and pro-abortion, then Hobby Lobby is not a good career choice for me?
originally posted by: RickinVa
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: buster2010
Getting rid of a fertilized egg before it implants is not abortion. .
It's killing a conceived child. It's an abortion pill. The left doesn't like to admit these are abortificants and they whine that technically they child hasn't implanted so the medical term can't be used. But the fact remains .. it kills a conceived child.
Pregnancy isn't a "belief", it's a medical condition. According to the American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, pregnancy begins upon implantation.
Frozen embryos aren't people, and when an embryo is transferred to a women during a fertility procedure, she "hopes" to become pregnant. She isn't pregnant until that embryo implants.
Again, pregnancy isn't a belief, but when "life begins" is.
Soooo what your saying is that I ,as an atheist and pro-abortion, then Hobby Lobby is not a good career choice for me?
Are there atheist out there who are anti-abortion because they believe that a "God" creates life at a certain point in time?
Religion and right to life go pretty much hand in hand.
Before any anti-abortion people jump on the band wagon, if you have not personally adopted 25 homeless children, then stfu because all you are doing is flapping your gums about something you truly have no conviction in.
originally posted by: windword
Hobby Lobby was never asked to pay for abortions.
originally posted by: windword
I believe the correct titles are "Pro-Choice" and "Anti-Choice".
originally posted by: windword
Frozen embryos aren't people,
Again, pregnancy isn't a belief, but when "life begins" is.
Hobby Lobby is an arts and crafts retail chain store, with more than 13,000 employees in over 500 stores nationwide. Mardel is a chain of Christian-themed bookstores, with 372 full-time employees in 35 stores. Employees of the two corporations and their families receive health insurance from the corporations’ self-insured group health plans.
The applicants filed an action in Federal District Court for declaratory and injunctive relief under the Free Exer - cise Clause of the First Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (RFRA), 42 U. S. C. §2000bb et seq. They allege that under the HRSA guide - lines, Hobby Lobby and Mardel will be required, contrary to the applicants’ religious beliefs, to provide insurance coverage for certain drugs and devices that the applicants believe can cause abortions.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: windword
A fertilized egg/embryo is not a child!
I said ... conceived child. And an abortificant does indeed kill it.
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: windword
A fertilized egg/embryo is not a child!
I said ... conceived child. And an abortificant does indeed kill it.
What the hell is a "conceived child"? A you trying to get metaphysical on me?
Like I said, and embryo isn't a child.
Abortions and abortificants (chemical abortions) end pregnancies. No implantation, no pregnancy, no abortion.
So medically at what point do you call it a child?