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originally posted by: RickinVa
to make sure that everyone is "faithful" to thier convictions...
again, if you do not believe in abortions, then I am sure you have adopted no less than 25 of the children that are homeless... I mean after all, if they aren't aborted and come to be born,,, somebody has to take care of them right?
Again... this case was based on religious beliefs... I, for one, DO NOT believe that a company or corporation can have "religious beliefs". People can, corps and companies can not.
And yes, I do wholeheartedly agree with abortion after conception. My Grandchild was born with HLHS... the doctors were stunned that the defect wasn't caught by pre-natal screening, which it should have been, not to mention the abnormal heartbeat.
She is now 7.... her medical bills are past 1.4 million at this point and her future very much remains in doubt. She is on medicare so every taxpayer is footing her medical bills and will continue to do so for a long long time. No child should have to go through what she has been through and still yet has to go through.
originally posted by: RickinVa
to make sure that everyone is "faithful" to thier convictions...
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: windword
A fertilized egg/embryo is not a child!
I said ... conceived child. And an abortificant does indeed kill it.
My opinion is that it is the woman's decision... its her body.. her decision....up until the moment of birth.
HL's entire case is based on belief not scientific fact.
. You can't even have a child, you are in effect a monetary consigner and thats it. It's her body you have nothing to say. Yet you're going to decide what a private company should and should not do.
The case was based on Constitutional law issues.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: MarlinGrace
. You can't even have a child, you are in effect a monetary consigner and thats it. It's her body you have nothing to say. Yet you're going to decide what a private company should and should not do.
Wait? What? Can a private company have a baby? I'm confused!
How come all these men think that their opinion is valid? They can't have a baby either?
originally posted by: RickinVa
So Hobby Lobby's owners are so dead set in their religious beliefs that they felt it was necessary to go to the SCOTUS, because they felt it was against their beliefs to have to be forced to provide employees with birth control.
originally posted by: RickinVa
But answer this one question for me: Is it of your esteemed opinion that companies/corporations have the self conscious ability to understand religion and have religious beliefs without outside human influence?
originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: opethPA
All I am saying is that I would have personally tossed the case as soon as it became evident that the term "religious beliefs" were being applied to a non-human entity. It's just not logical, or even possible for a non-sentient company/corporation to have religious beliefs.
I still call a BS flag on the whole deal.
The ruling affects me exactly 0% and I could really careless about anything to do with it other than Companies/Corporations having "religious beliefs". That is what I have major heartburn with.
The whole thing can be side tracked 50 million times about pro-life, pro-abortion debates. It still doesn't get around the fact that it is technically impossible for a Company/Corporation to have "religious beliefs".
originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: MarlinGrace
one more time Marlin:
Is it of your esteemed opinion that companies/corporations have the self conscious ability and sentient awareness to understand religion and have religious beliefs without outside human influence?
originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: MarlinGrace
one more time Marlin:
Is it of your esteemed opinion that companies/corporations have the self conscious ability and sentient awareness to understand religion and have religious beliefs without outside human influence?