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Hobby Lobby is a craft store chain that says it operates "in a manner consistent with Biblical principles." Those values extend throughout its business, except when it comes to the company's retirement plan.
originally posted by: Metallicus
They were NOT against birth control and never were. They were against paying for abortion pills and the murder of unborn humans. Get your facts straight before you rant. No one is saying the mothers can't kill their babies on their own.
originally posted by: Shaiker
a reply to: RickinVa
Well seeing how hobby lobby doesnt have a problem with birth control they should be able to invest into it. The issue that was brought up to the supreme court was with birth control that happens after conception. in other words the rain coat is fine just not the pill the day after.
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
originally posted by: Metallicus
They were NOT against birth control and never were. They were against paying for abortion pills and the murder of unborn humans. Get your facts straight before you rant. No one is saying the mothers can't kill their babies on their own.
I agree. I am amazed at how many folks don't know this whole story by now. They are covering (and have no issue with) 16 out of 20 different birth control methods. People are ASSuming that they refused to cover any and all birth control when that simply isn't the case.
They just do not want to pay for the emergency contraceptives which can kill a fertilized egg before it implants.
originally posted by: Shaiker
a reply to: RickinVa
Well seeing how hobby lobby doesnt have a problem with birth control they should be able to invest into it. The issue that was brought up to the supreme court was with birth control that happens after conception. in other words the rain coat is fine just not the pill the day after.
Nicely put. Pithy and on the money.
originally posted by: Metallicus
They were NOT against birth control and never were. They were against paying for abortion pills and the murder of unborn humans. Get your facts straight before you rant. No one is saying the mothers can't kill their babies on their own.
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
originally posted by: Metallicus
They were NOT against birth control and never were. They were against paying for abortion pills and the murder of unborn humans. Get your facts straight before you rant. No one is saying the mothers can't kill their babies on their own.
I agree. I am amazed at how many folks don't know this whole story by now. They are covering (and have no issue with) 16 out of 20 different birth control methods. People are ASSuming that they refused to cover any and all birth control when that simply isn't the case.
They just do not want to pay for the emergency contraceptives which can kill a fertilized egg before it implants.
originally posted by: Shaiker
a reply to: RickinVa
Well seeing how hobby lobby doesnt have a problem with birth control they should be able to invest into it. The issue that was brought up to the supreme court was with birth control that happens after conception. in other words the rain coat is fine just not the pill the day after.
Nicely put. Pithy and on the money.
It seems to me a lot of people lately just want to jump to conclusions without knowing the smallest part of the facts. I swear they just want to be in the cocked and pissed position. I wonder if this is a temperature indicator of the country from a small scale sample. The discussion is becoming smaller and the rant is becoming louder, and heaven forbid, don't confuse me with the facts.
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
It has certainly divided all of us a little further and I suppose that's just a bonus for those watching and taking notes.
originally posted by: RickinVa
I have to call the BS flag on this one..... you are either 100% committed to your beliefs or you are not... it's that simple..... not only when it suits you or your "company".
originally posted by: RickinVa
So Hobby Lobby's owners are so dead set in their religious beliefs that they felt it was necessary to go to the SCOTUS, because they felt it was against their beliefs to have to be forced to provide employees with birth control.
originally posted by: buster2010
Getting rid of a fertilized egg before it implants is not abortion. .
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: RickinVa
Actually it's the employee that chooses how to invest their money.
But this is certainly ironic.
Hobby Lobby
Hobby Lobby
Hobby Lobby
At least eight of those funds have been invested in companies that produce contraceptives such as Teva Pharmaceutical (TEVA), Bayer (BAYRY), and Pfizer (PFE), according to a CNNMoney analysis. Teva makes Plan B. At least one fund also held Forest Laboratories, which makes a drug that is used to induce abortions.
originally posted by: RickinVa
Sooooooooo how does a company/corporation (C/C) have religious beliefs?
Do the C/C attend church on Sundays?
Do the C/C get baptized?
Do the C/C observe Ramadan?
Do the C/C believe they will go to hell when they die if they are not faithful?
I just don't get how a C/C can be considered religious for purposes of evading regulations. I have no problem with the owners being religious, but how can they shove that down their employees throats?
What next on my application for employment form.... this companies religious beliefs prevent us from providing some things we feel, as a company, go against the companies beliefs so please sign below that you acknowlecge as a condition of employment that we, as a company, can deny you benefits based on our religious beliefs?
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: buster2010
Getting rid of a fertilized egg before it implants is not abortion. .
It's killing a conceived child. It's an abortion pill. The left doesn't like to admit these are abortificants and they whine that technically they child hasn't implanted so the medical term can't be used. But the fact remains .. it kills a conceived child.