Originally posted by Mercenary2007

the farmed raised turkeys are not beautiful, intelligent birds they are ugly and very dumb!they will drown themselves if left outside in the rain. they can fly but usually don't unless being chased. they do not suffer a painful death. before they are killed they are knocked unconsious by a small electric shock.

Perhaps they ARE more beautiful and more intelligent than you know.
And really - reading this description is suppose to make them more
appealing to kill and eat??
I hope you don't reincarnate as a turkey... It could make for a very painful lesson.

No, I will not eat a tofu turkey. I have already harvested a bird during hunting season. There are many reasons why I hunt. Population control, because there aren't enough natural predators. Population control, because there isn't enough food for large flocks. Population control, because large numbers of wild animals lead to diseased population. Population control, because large flocks devastate cropland. Population control, because turkeys can reproduce like rabbits.

Most impotatntly, wild game doesn't have all the chemical and hormones that are pumped into Jenny-O turkeys.

Meat its the reason we have pointy teeth.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jacksmoke]

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jacksmoke]

Originally posted by jacksmoke
Most impotatntly, wild game doesn't have all the chemical and hormones that are pumped into Jenny-O turkeys.

Meat its the reason we have pointy teeth.

Damn right, check out the interview I posted above. Do you think we are looking in the wrong direction? With all of the chemicals they pump in to the farmed animals you would think that people would understand. Poor sanitary conditions, etc. NOPE, Obama killed a fly.

Nope sorry, tofu contains soy, soy is far worse for you than.
If you care about your reproductive organs, thyroid and other hormone producing glands, please for your bodies sake eat a turkey.

How about a Tofu Shoot!

You can break tradition and still have the essence of being a provider.

Just take the tofu out in the back yard and put it next to a big tree, where it can hide. Then take a few shots at it with a 12 gauge. Just like the real thing! Perhaps it will even taste better.

Originally posted by ghaleon12

Unfortunately, if you are trying to avoid GMO's, organic doesnt cut it. In America, when something is labeled organic, it means it was grown organically-the seeds themselves could still be "round-up ready" or other GM....

Being that I eat organic, I'm very sure that the organic label doesn't include GMO. But if someone finds something different and can post it, I really need to know lol.

I eat organic as well. Organic labeling in america is based on the growing method, not the seeds. If you eat anything from morningstar farms, gardenburger, kellogg, and many, many others, organic or not, you are eating GMO's.

Like I said, monsanto owns a 98% market share of the soy beans in america. And their mission is to make every single one "round-up ready"

I'm about to eat so much damn turkey. It's the food chain, predators eat prey. I guess maybe it could be more humane. regardless I'm going to eat turkey. sucks to be a turkey.

Oh 'save the turkeys' Is it? How about us chickens, you speciest?



More seriously How about these?



Hopw about the creatures were torture and kill but dont eat!

Save the Human, help a starving child. Lets worry about our own species before we worry about others. If we can't show kindness to one another how can we ever expect people to treat animals better.

Besides animals are to tasty not to eat.

Save the Human, help a starving child. Lets worry about our own species before we worry about others. If we can't show kindness to one another how can we ever expect people to treat animals better.

This is good point and I agree regards our behaviours, but then there is no shortage of humans either. Moreover caring for each other, Isn't nessesarily a priority, since if we fail to care for other species and their enviroment, we endanger our own future too.

An example given as a "healthy" alternative to turkey is tofu? Given the conspiratorial nature of this site I'm surprised anyone would recommend a food that requires more processing to make then it does for the turkey and the fact that most if not all tofu is manufactured strictly by subsidiaries of companies based in china, and very few in other Asian countries. few if an are strictly American companies solely. The Consumption of tofu has been linked with dementia in certain age groups in more than one study. Leading me to believe that certain if not most processing of tofu contains or adds mixtures of chemicals and compounds that are destructive to physical and mental health. Not to mention the fact that more living material is "killed" to produce the same amount of tofu to make one tofurkey then it takes to kill one turkey. Where is the sanity there, its not OK to kill a turkey but its OK to "kill" millions upon millions of plants, which are a living reproducing species? Now I'm no tree huger here far from it and in actuality I believe both the manufactured tofu and most slaughtered turkeys are currently unhealthy due to the many different additives such as HGH, antibiotics and other pathogens these food items are exposed to before human consumption. But I am trying to point out the sheer hypocrisy of stating the killing of one living thing over another is right as an alternative simply based on the intelligence factor, either its OK to kill both for nutrition and survival reasons or its not ok to kill either. Just some food for thought.

(Pardon the pun it seemed to fit at the moment.)





[edit on 20-4-2010 by LurkingSleipner]

Not sure why, but the last time I cooked a turkey the delightful aroma made me nauseous.

So, I don't want to cook a turkey this year.

I think I'll have fish. Surely the pilgrims had fish on the thanksgiving table. Right?